Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
he'll choke on his foot
Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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Ax^
Silly Rabbit
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Buy shit with built in obsolescence you don't need on credit. Vote for any capitalist party you like.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Contrasting images - Russian prisoners, and a dogfight.. hard to imagine this is happening.
Will these images ever be seen in Russia though?
elbows
Well-Known Member
I wouldnt want to be be too complacent about the madness of MAD always holding in full, but even regimes which are painted as being batshit crazy have many underlying rationales and internal logic to them, and it is not usually considered to be in the interests of the powerful to have populations and territory being nuked.
Fears about the world eventually ending up going over the brink on this are more about how continual escalations and provocations could gradually lead us to a point of no return, rather than a single 'insane leader and regime' carrying us all the way there on their own in a single step. Countries and blocks that are prepared to call each others bluff when it comes to limited conventional conflicts do not take the same approach when it comes to the spectre of nuclear holocaust. I never say never about anything, but much would have to change before I would speak seriously about the threat of nuclear war. MAD is crazy but it sort of works, and if that ever changes this should become well evident some time before the triggering events.
Jimmy Don't
Well-Known Member
Contrasting images - Russian prisoners, and a dogfight.. hard to imagine this is happening.
Jesus - just kids as well
TopCat
Putin fanboy
How many fighter aircraft do Ukraine have or had?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
they might have wanted to use the airport themselves
Supine
Newt Member
What could they have done about it?
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
This.
Russia has a big army and airforce. Ukraine has a decent ish army and old kit and fuck all airforce
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
He did mention sanctions. His speech was almost identical to Stoltenburgh's and delivered a few minutes afterwards so there's obviously some coordination going on.
If they do it is not going well
hitmouse
music obfuscation technology
Seems like it's just being set up now, so hard to verify much, but this seems like a decent project:
linktr.ee
I think Dresden ABC are involved, not sure about much else though - fwiw, their self-description seems to be:
"Hello! We are supporters of horizontal society, solidarity and cooperation from different cities of Ukraine. Today we have united in the volunteer project "Operation Solidarity" in order to jointly help all healthy forces of society to counteract imperialist aggression against our country. We plan to collect humanitarian aid and fundraising in favor of territorial defense fighters and in support of all grassroots initiatives that unite people in confronting a common threat. We also plan to help refugees, host social events and spread the practices of equal decision-making and direct democracy.
You can help us by sharing info, making events and demos at your cities, sending money [long donation details follow]"
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linktr.ee
"Hello! We are supporters of horizontal society, solidarity and cooperation from different cities of Ukraine. Today we have united in the volunteer project "Operation Solidarity" in order to jointly help all healthy forces of society to counteract imperialist aggression against our country. We plan to collect humanitarian aid and fundraising in favor of territorial defense fighters and in support of all grassroots initiatives that unite people in confronting a common threat. We also plan to help refugees, host social events and spread the practices of equal decision-making and direct democracy.
You can help us by sharing info, making events and demos at your cities, sending money [long donation details follow]"
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
or one of them is plagiarising the other, and we know who'd be the plagiarist there
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
So, they go ahead and appoint Hughesy while
Well, don't they?
hitmouse
music obfuscation technology
Genuine-seeming afaict appeal for the Jewish community of Odessa:
There's also another fund for the Jewish community of Ukraine here:
Not saying that these particular funds are more deserving than any others, just that they're ones I've come across today. And I'm fairly sure that they're not a front for neo-nazis, although the Russia Today crowd might suggest otherwise.
There's also another fund for the Jewish community of Ukraine here:
Not saying that these particular funds are more deserving than any others, just that they're ones I've come across today. And I'm fairly sure that they're not a front for neo-nazis, although the Russia Today crowd might suggest otherwise.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
From my (very) limited knowledge of the situation, that sounds sensible. Destroy the Ukranian defence systems without getting into the messy stuff + take the infrastructure and encircle key targets. If the end game is some mix of absorbtion of the rebel held areas and installation of a puppet regime, they probably want to avoid mass casualties. Well, that's the most hopeful thing I can think of in this shitshow.
BCBlues
Lend us a Twenner
Johnson also said that Putin is turning Russia into a pariah state. Kettle/black.
And it was the Soviet Union that won that one.
RileyOBlimey
Well-Known Member
I wonder how long it’ll take for the dishing out of small arms in Ukraine will find their way to the UK for wronguns to mince about with?
Russians outside of Russia will be in touch with their families in Russia.
Hopefully.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
And done what about it? Bearing in mind Ukraine is a vast country with a fraction of Russia's military resources.
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