Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[Bingoman]

Just seen reports on various news wires and Twitter suggesting Russia have some prisoners of war?

 

[RD2003]

Adrian Chiles has just promised us some experts.

 

[Pickman's model]

Just seen reports on various news wires and Twitter suggesting Russia have some prisoners of war?

there's a surprise.

 

[elbows]

Well you dont usually have a war without some prisoners of war quickly becoming apparent.

 

[xenon]

A bit late but can anyone recommend any decent books on Putin, the general post 90s WTF is going on with Russia thing? I've read From Cold War to Hot Peace by Michael McFaul which was informative from the diplomatic angle.

 

[kebabking]

It looks like Antonov Airport near Kyev is in the process of being attacked/taken by Russian helicopter delivered airborne forces - wouldn't be surprised if heavier forces are brought in by heavy airlift aircraft, and that Russian Armoured forces coming from the north link up with them.

I would surprised if Kyev is not encircled in 24/48 hours.

I still take the view that actually moving into the cities is going to be hard, but in terms of the wide open spaces, Ukrainian territorial defence has folded - but it's important to to understand that that is probably the plan.

 

[Pickman's model]

It looks like Antonov Airport near Kyev is in the process of being attacked/taken by Russian helicopter delivered airborne forces - wouldn't be surprised if heavier forces are brought in by heavy airlift aircraft, and that Russian Armoured forces coming from the north link up with them.

I would surprised if Kyev is not encircled in 24/48 hours.

I still take the view that actually moving into the cities is going to be hard, but in terms of the wide open spaces, Ukrainian territorial defence has folded - but it's important to to understand that that is probably the plan.

we'll soon i suppose see if kiev is grozny mark iii

 

[Mirrors_Lie]

 

[RainbowTown]

It looks like Antonov Airport near Kyev is in the process of being attacked/taken by Russian helicopter delivered airborne forces - wouldn't be surprised if heavier forces are brought in by heavy airlift aircraft, and that Russian Armoured forces coming from the north link up with them.

I would surprised if Kyev is not encircled in 24/48 hours.

I still take the view that actually moving into the cities is going to be hard, but in terms of the wide open spaces, Ukrainian territorial defence has folded - but it's important to to understand that that is probably the plan.

 

[JimW]

From that Meduza rolling update page:

More than 140 municipal deputies from cities across Russia have signed an open statement condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. “This is an unparalleled atrocity for which there is no and cannot be any justification,” reads the text.

Tiny few I imagine but fair play to them. Also says Czech premier, previously seen as warmer to Russia, has condemned it in really strong terms and called for concrete resistance.

 

[cupid_stunt]

EDIT - beaten to it by RainbowTown

 

[spitfire]

we'll soon i suppose see if kiev is grozny mark iii

I hope not. For the Ukrainians sake. That was a war crime.

 

[zahir]

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[Pickman's model]

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i see

 

[elbows]

I wonder what the status and location of Viktor Medvedchuk is right now.

Viktor Medvedchuk - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Bingoman]

In the city Kharsyzk the Russian flag has been raised - Sky News have said

 

[Petcha]

Not particularly informed about this situation but surely the US could just go and sort this shit out with the biggest military in the world at their disposal? I get Ukraine is not a NATO nation which makes it legally wrong but given Putin doesn't give a fuck about international law why should the 'West'?

 

[Aladdin]

From @Ukraine the officils twitter page of Ukraine

Ukraine tweets Hitler-Putin cartoon amid war with Russia

As tension mounts between Russia and Ukraine, Ukraine from its official Twitter account shared a cartoon illustrating Adolf Hitler smiling down on Russia President Vladimir Putin.

www.tribuneindia.com

 

[bimble]

Johnson just called Putin a dictator.

Saw his pointless speech to us the British public, no mention at all of sanctions that might hurt the UK in any way, silly vacuous speech not going to be seen as threatening or reassuring to anyone.

 

[elbows]

Not particularly informed about this situation but surely the US could just go and sort this shit out with the biggest military in the world at their disposal? I get Ukraine is not a NATO nation which makes it legally wrong but given Putin doesn't give a fuck about international law why should the 'West'?

Well there is this thing called the nuclear deterrent which takes many options off the table and leaves us with the spectacle of the wiggle room for conventional war being restricted and deformed. Mutually assured destruction clearly still leaves room for certain 'lesser conflicts' to occur, but with red lines neither side will cross being scribbled all over the place.

 

[Pickman's model]

Saw his pointless speech to us the British public, no mention at all of sanctions that might hurt the UK in any way, silly vacuous speech not going to be seen as threatening or reassuring to anyone.

perhaps the best speech he's ever given

 

[ohmyliver]

Not particularly informed about this situation but surely the US could just go and sort this shit out with the biggest military in the world at their disposal? I get Ukraine is not a NATO nation which makes it legally wrong but given Putin doesn't give a fuck about international law why should the 'West'?

“Yeah, we’ve got this nasty fire here, surely if we pour a fuckton of oil on it, the fire’s going to go out?”

eta that’s not a helpful response, sorry.

 

[turing test]

Mad depends on your leadership.

 

[Pickman's model]

Not particularly informed about this situation but surely the US could just go and sort this shit out with the biggest military in the world at their disposal? I get Ukraine is not a NATO nation which makes it legally wrong but given Putin doesn't give a fuck about international law why should the 'West'?

i see you're looking forward to world war 3

the biggest military in the world is of course the chinese

 

[RD2003]

Johnson thought it was fucking playtime when his overweening ambition succeeded. First the twat nearly died as the economy tanked thanks to their ignoring of all the warnings about the potency of such things. And now this. It just isn't what he signed up for...

Possible heart attack on the way for the fat overgrown teenager.

 

[Hollis]

Contrasting images - Russian prisoners, and a dogfight.. hard to imagine this is happening.

 

[Pickman's model]

before anyone else says the united states should become involved in ukraine, ponder on the fact the americans haven't won any real war since 1945

 

[Flavour]

Not particularly informed about this situation but surely the US could just go and sort this shit out with the biggest military in the world at their disposal? I get Ukraine is not a NATO nation which makes it legally wrong but given Putin doesn't give a fuck about international law why should the 'West'?

no, not particularly informed.

 

[Aladdin]

Possible heart attack on the way for the fat overgrown teenager.

It would seem only his mouth is fat enough to kill him

 

[eatmorecheese]

I can't speak for the veracity of the sources being used, but this updated map gives an idea of the scale of the operation:

https://liveuamap.com/

What a complete fuckface this all is