Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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ska invita
back on the other side
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
But on the memorials it will read 'to the glorious dead'
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
"The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori."
Pro patria mori."
steveo87
22/11/2022 - got a maths joke.
Imagine being so much of a TERF that only one left to support you is an international pariah...
strung out
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And it doesn't look good for JK Rowling either.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
I'm not a fan of J K Rowling. I can't stand her fiction, what I've read of it. But just because Putin misrepresents her views on transgender issues it's no reason to divert this thread into an attack on those views, and to assume a correspondence between Putin and Rowling is crap. Has Rowling advocated war, siege, starvation, saturation bombing, ethnic cleansing, show trials, etc etc? No, of course she hasn't. Has she said that she agrees with Putin on anything at all? Specifically Putin's views rather than just opinions anyone might have about anything at all? Course not. Is she in favour of denazifying the Ukraine by destruction and mass murder? No. I thought not.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
While I'd note that the reason Putin mentioned Rowling was clearly because the well-known reactionary piece of shit sees her as an a fellow traveller in the specific arena of oppressing trans people (no-one having accused her of cheerleading mass murder) and that's why it's brought up, fair enough we shouldn't be derailing the thread or offering reasons to dig up That Argument again. Mea culpa.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I don't think anyone is seriously claiming that Rowling is a Putin fan - I rather suspect that she's mortified to have her name dropped like that. But it does serve as a timely reminder how one's prejudices can be weaponised by others.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
no but someone with links to the Russian government would jump at a chance to publish anything that highlights to barbarity of the Ukraine Nazi to score point in the hearts and minds of people at home and abroad
could post 100 videos similar to that from both side Reddit is full of em
saying that Russia is the one bombing civilians, schools and hospitals
some anger from the Ukrainian side is slightly understandable as war is shite
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Earlier in the war it was reported that Ukraine was giving POWs mobile phones to ring home, which seemed a nice thing to do but would have also been hugely beneficial for getting the message back to soldiers families as to what was going on, cutting through the Kremlin propaganda.
gosub
~#
Not read any of J K Rowling's books, but am aware she pretty much got a generation into reading..(no bad thing)
More, for me, about Putin,. Who, having launched Russia into a disaster of a war, offer's his supporters nothing but absurd justifiaction for his folly.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
'Once in. a generation' 'only one vote is democracy any more are tyrany'
Luexit MEANS Luexit.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Her, her publishers, their marketing department. Pity it's such awful dross which draws from a range of other works, with anti-semitic tropes
But back to the bloodbath
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Which is why we outsource it to nutters such as likesfish, kebabking, dylanredefined and so on.
It is shit.
People’s lives stop because of it and they stop in nasty, painful ways.
Putin decreed that people on both sides should suffer it.
I would rather not see films such as that one, even though we know it is happening. I don’t think it helps inform anything much.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
I’ve been avoiding it as best I can, but people post it in comments beneath other people’s tweets, the POW stuff is being spammed around like fuck by bots/tankies/alt-right types, clearly seen as a propaganda victory.
I did see some bleak as fuck stuff from Mariupol today, bodies piled in the street outside what was reported as a morgue, just dozens and dozens piled up like rubbish, half naked civilians, some clearly emaciated. Looked like some of the footage from WW2 concentration camps. Proper horrible, can’t get it out of my head. At the same time you feel the world needs to see this, but also needs to see the same from Aleppo, Yemen etc. War is horrible shit.
David Clapson
Well-Known Member
Anyone see this? https://www.channel4.com/programmes/falklands-war-the-untold-story/on-demand/72469-001 Some of the British senior officers were as hopeless as the Russian army is today. No exaggeration to say that we would have lost if we hadn't had help from Pinochet.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Apples. Oranges.
dilute micro
esse quam videri
Russia shouldn't be able to wreck Ukraine, leave when it wants and then have sanctions lifted as if everything's fine.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
No, but sanctions need to be deployed (edit: and withdrawn) rationally and in consequence of what is actually happening. I mean if there’s a negotiated peace and sanctions aren’t removed, what’s the point in entering into negotiations?
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gosub
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Not watched the program but aware of what content would be. (I once had the privilige of working with a FCO types that got gonged for their work in Chile). Russia, even at the time didn't think it could have done what UK did with regarrds Falklands. Part of the reason Thatcher was the top table intermediary between US CCCP
dilute micro
esse quam videri
I get that and also that too harsh a punishment can give rise to nationalists as they see themselves as the victims. But it looks as if Putin could spitefully level cities if he's capable. They've done enough already. Imagine the cost of rebuilding.
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
Agreed its the result of the negative aspects of the interdependancies of globalisation, we deal with anyone if it suits us economically, moral considerations are very much at the bottom of the priorities list despite the bullshit facade of care that Western Governments like to present
mojo pixy
שיר חדש
When Mariupol is rebuilt to the last brick and window, Ukrainian flag is flying above, and every man, woman and child who left Ukraine as refugees are home and safe, then sanctions against Russia should end. Not a day before.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Well I would add when Putin is swinging from a lamppost as well but yeah we can compromise and go with your suggestion.
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