Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Well they are worried...
Lithuania’s president Gitanes Nausėda is to ask Nato for security consultations, reports Reuters.
Lithuania wants to invoke the defence alliance’s article 4, which allows any Nato country to ask for talks on an issue of concern, “especially related to the security of a member country”. The article has been invoked several times since Nato was founded in 1949.
Lithuania’s president Gitanes Nausėda is to ask Nato for security consultations, reports Reuters.
Lithuania wants to invoke the defence alliance’s article 4, which allows any Nato country to ask for talks on an issue of concern, “especially related to the security of a member country”. The article has been invoked several times since Nato was founded in 1949.
hitmouse
music obfuscation technology
Yeah, think they're like Russian liberals? The only story of theirs I've ever really paid much attention to is one on the darker/more complicated sides of a certain high-profile Russian state repression case, but I don't think they were publishing it to smear dissidents or anything, it was just that situation was genuinely fucked up and messy and they wanted to tell the truth as best as possible.
Russian government doesn't seem to like them too much:
Russia Labels Meduza Media Outlet As 'Foreign Agent'
The Russian government has designated the Latvia-based independent Meduza news outlet as a foreign agent -- a move that will require it to label itself as such and will subject it to increased government scrutiny.
www.rferl.org
Also, lone protester out in Moscow today:
Can't see it acheiving anything, but still, brave fucker.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
So he's recognised the two 'separatist' regions as legitimate, claimed they've asked Russia for help against the 'genocide' Ukraine has been subjecting them to and used that as a pretext for the invasion?
By the looks of it that ranty speech, the security council meeting and the declaration of war were all pre recorded on the same day too. No wonder they were all shitting themselves in that meeting. He's not even trying to make a case is he? It's I'm doing it, here's my reasons and I don't give a fuck if you believe me or not.
By the looks of it that ranty speech, the security council meeting and the declaration of war were all pre recorded on the same day too. No wonder they were all shitting themselves in that meeting. He's not even trying to make a case is he? It's I'm doing it, here's my reasons and I don't give a fuck if you believe me or not.
Riklet
procrastinación
I am genuinely surprised about it being a full on invasion. Not sure whether Putin will actually risk a proper occupation though or just give them a good thrashing for 5 days like Georgia.
I suspect an element of this is not wanting to back down, having built up so many troops etc.
As ever its the typical Russian strategy of buffer zones and semi controlled territory against hostile aggressors. Hell of a price to pay economically though.
I suspect an element of this is not wanting to back down, having built up so many troops etc.
As ever its the typical Russian strategy of buffer zones and semi controlled territory against hostile aggressors. Hell of a price to pay economically though.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Prussia
not-bono-ever
meh
bimble
floofy
Let’s see but if this is true, people are saying yeah yeah putin is a big baddie but we still want to sell Gucci handbags to all his friends wives.
dilute micro
esse quam videri
Full scale is better for a quicker defeat. It disorients the enemy and lessens the cost in money and losses. And Ukraine has shit for air defenses.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
You've not read the news have you?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
thought the russians were running the war
not-bono-ever
meh
Mrs NBE family escaped from Kherson to the west over a century ago to escape the pogroms. I’m seeing more people escaping the clutches of the bear again today. Fuckibg hell
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it does now anyway
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I was trying to be darkly ironic (and obviously failing)
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Of course it’s an invasion. The invasion tactic is to declare that a piece of the country you are invading has split off, so your invasion is not really an invasion of the country, just an invasion of the bit of the country you are now choosing to declare is not that really country. But that doesn’t change anything. Just because Putin says these places are not Ukraine, doesn’t mean he’s right. He’s invaded Ukraine. Unless, for some reason, you agree that these supposed “independent” states are not actually part of Ukraine?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
there's certainly a great wave of hot air heading from the bbc
not-bono-ever
meh
Yep but no, it’s a bit confusing- al jazzers saying Odessa has been invaded - what’s actually happening ?
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Of course it's an invasion, just because you have kept claiming it would never happen, doesn't change the fact that it has happened.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Putin Declared war and say he needs to denazifiy Ukraine to keep russia safe
peace keeping mission innit
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
There were quite a lot of twitter leftists, including Jacobin magazine, boldly declaring that the idea Russia was about to invade was trumped-up Western hype. Including alleged analysis of how many troops he had there vs how many he'd need to invade Ukraine. I wonder if they will have a moment of humility.
There's an invasion, tanks have crossed from Belarus and Kiev is being shelled
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
not-bono-ever
meh
I’m on the brink of contribution to the server fund . If they move out of the existing disputed areas then I will fully accept I am error.
not-bono-ever
meh
Fuckibg hell. Belarus
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