steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
what?
So, you think anarchists should only be passive and pure?I think we should support things like the ambulance convoy and those trying to help refugees. Unfortunately it would appear that there are no people in Ukraine to support that are not fighting with the state, a part of which are fascist organisations in the military (as with Russia). I believe in people's right to defend themselves against imperialism/invasion but do not support the state or any capitalist system.
Very selective quoting there. You omitted a significant part.So, you think anarchists should only be passive and pure?
Well, that counts as good news then.Yes. Cruise missiles.
Well, that counts as good news then.
Those cruise missile rockets cost hundreds of thousands of £ each I just learned, what a stupid world.
Do you think everyone in Ukraine is able to fight and that it's a good idea to cheer on young militants and old grannies with machine guns to battle to their deaths from behind a keyboard? Seems like rather a waste to me and not a good idea.So, you think anarchists should only be passive and pure?
The British ruling class didn't have much to benefit or loose from intervening in Spain.If the interests of the state overlap with those of the working class then why didn't the British state/ruling class intervene in Spain ?
There's a moose loose aboot this hoosloose
Fascinating. You've missed the point though.The British ruling class didn't have much to benefit or loose from intervening in Spain.
Only if you regard the people in Ukraine who are being killed and being maimed now, as we type (Ukrainian and Russian plus others) as mere ciphers there to support your pontification. But that would make anyone who felt it a bit of a cunt TBFThis is a very silly thread.
Do you think everyone in Ukraine is able to fight and that it's a good idea to cheer on young militants and old grannies with machine guns to battle to their deaths from behind a keyboard? Seems like rather a waste to me and not a good idea.
I'm afraid it is true that there are other ways that the people of Ukraine can be supported that don't involve fighting aswell.
660 million euros sent from Europe to Russia for gas in just one day (3rd March) so you're right, for all the fanfare about sanctions they can afford the missiles.Latest total I saw from an article yesterday was that they’d fired off 775 so far (so over 800 with last night’s attack). Getting on for a billion quid, or a few day’s worth of gas sales to Europe.
TBF, they already own the missiles.660 million euros sent from Europe to Russia for gas in just one day (3rd March) so you're right, for all the fanfare about sanctions they can afford the missiles.
What doesn’t bode well is that the summary has misdefined the fundamental attribution error. It’s nothing to do with attributing things to other people, it’s about misattributing causes to individual characteristics rather than the background situation. If they don’t even know what the fundamental attribution error is, which is one of the most basic parts of social psychology, I don’t rate their chances of tackling the more complex parts of it.This is an interesting take on a psychological factor of the spiralling escalation between NATO and Russia: Social Psychology Provides Insights for Defusing the Ukraine Crisis
TBF, they already own the missiles.
This is quite funny if true
What doesn’t bode well is that the summary has misdefined the fundamental attribution error. It’s nothing to do with attributing things to other people, it’s about misattributing causes to individual characteristics rather than the background situation. If they don’t even know what the fundamental attribution error is, which is one of the most basic parts of social psychology, I don’t rate their chances of tackling the more complex parts of it.
To be fair, maybe that’s just the person writing the summary but it doesn’t encourage me to read further.
What's funny?
The old thing
i found this thread helpful, it's directed at people like me.
But I have a question:
If, as does seem to be the case, Putin is doing a lot of work to try to ramp things up & goad NATO into some kind of response (like with the 'your weapons convoys are now a legit target' thing), why is he doing that, what for?
Great business opportunity! I'll accept you as a co-partner of this venture if you can come up with 50% of the start-up money.And, they are not easily replaced, it's not like you can pop down to 'Missiles R Us' and pick them up.
You haven't seen silly.This is a very silly thread.
Thats a decent answer.IMO (totally unmilitary) it's become a game of bluff . I don't think Putin meant it to, but he didn't envisage much of what has happened.
He's now, unexpectedly to him, got to convince a lot of 90%(?) of Ukrainians to agree with his demands or change his demands. I don't think he's ready to change them so soon.
So currently he can only use fear to get them to backdown. So the threats are getting bigger to scare people.
He's fairly confident NATO won't intervene. And he's letting us know that means any weapons , no matter their circuitous route.
Perhaps he thinks NATO would rather try and talk Ukraine into concessions than engage in war. Putin could then look on those concessions as a victory and not lose total face. I know that's prob too simplistic.
I think I'm just trying to think of any way this madness can end as quick as possible.