Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Well it is a Soviet era vehicle
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
bimble
floofy
yes. so its just noise.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Oh don't be so bloody smug. Hardly any fucks were given when Russia was doing this in Syria, including from many people saying 'oh just think of Russia's security.' In fact many of those same voices were praising Putin for playing such a clever hand in Syria and lionising him for getting rid of all those head choppers.
We'll learn fuck all from this. History IS this being done time and time again by varying shades of cunts.
bimble
floofy
What if whole idea that 'we cant get involved cos that would be WW3' is nonsense.
i think i'm coming round to the point of view in this article, which is mostly about send the fucking planes but this is the main point:
"The Biden administration’s obsession with not giving Russia a pretext to declare us co-belligerents is not only weak; it is strategically pointless. As Latvian Defense Minister Artis Pabriks points out, “If … the Kremlin would like to fight a war against NATO or Europe, they could always find a reason."
That's just true isn't it, the idea that some detail about where the planes are handed over will make the difference between WW3 and not is actually premised on a bunch of assumptions about the rule book that don't really hold up.
i think i'm coming round to the point of view in this article, which is mostly about send the fucking planes but this is the main point:
"The Biden administration’s obsession with not giving Russia a pretext to declare us co-belligerents is not only weak; it is strategically pointless. As Latvian Defense Minister Artis Pabriks points out, “If … the Kremlin would like to fight a war against NATO or Europe, they could always find a reason."
That's just true isn't it, the idea that some detail about where the planes are handed over will make the difference between WW3 and not is actually premised on a bunch of assumptions about the rule book that don't really hold up.
nogojones
spelling is overrated
These rules seem to only apply to the losers though
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
Think anything is gonna change as a result of this fuck up?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Was gas used by the British in Iraq after ww1?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yes, it's all going to get worse
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
But what do you think?
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
Their gamble, would be, unfortunately, our gamble also.What if whole idea that 'we cant get involved cos that would be WW3' is nonsense.
i think i'm coming round to the point of view in this article, which is mostly about send the fucking planes but this is the main point:
"The Biden administration’s obsession with not giving Russia a pretext to declare us co-belligerents is not only weak; it is strategically pointless. As Latvian Defense Minister Artis Pabriks points out, “If … the Kremlin would like to fight a war against NATO or Europe, they could always find a reason."
That's just true isn't it, the idea that some detail about where the planes are handed over will make the difference between WW3 and not is actually premised on a bunch of assumptions about the rule book that don't really hold up.
Everybody kiss your kids goodbye in advance.
Although that phrase was originally used by US airforce general Curtis Le May. Who apparently said it after incinerating two thirds of Japanese cities in World War II.
He was in charge of the airforce when JFK was President and used the phrase again against Cuba.
He was bitterly disappointed that Kennedy rejected his plan.
The phrase has been used by many since.
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Starry Wisdom
It is from decisions like these the republicans will make hay in this year's electionsWhat if whole idea that 'we cant get involved cos that would be WW3' is nonsense.
i think i'm coming round to the point of view in this article, which is mostly about send the fucking planes but this is the main point:
"The Biden administration’s obsession with not giving Russia a pretext to declare us co-belligerents is not only weak; it is strategically pointless. As Latvian Defense Minister Artis Pabriks points out, “If … the Kremlin would like to fight a war against NATO or Europe, they could always find a reason."
That's just true isn't it, the idea that some detail about where the planes are handed over will make the difference between WW3 and not is actually premised on a bunch of assumptions about the rule book that don't really hold up.
bimble
floofy
yes, I'm sure Biden very much does not want to be 'the president who started ww3'. And yet here we are, maybe it's an illusion that it's up to him.
No matter how much we protest on the internet or the streets. Are we all just to be witnesses to the madness?
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Starry Wisdom
Thank you for you attention to detail with this post. I wanted to say above that the Russian way of war so similar to the American and I'm grateful for your example of such
bimble
floofy
of course. And its good that i'm not in charge because I'm being emotional, i feel like i'm being kept safe (maybe) hiding behind the women at the bombed out hospital.
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
If the Russians prevail, who knows. If it's the Ukrainian government, watch them grow even richer than some of them already are. The dead on both sides are destined to be symbols, guaranteed to be forgotten by history, just like the rest.
Most of us are born mugs and die mugs,
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nogojones
spelling is overrated
A Russian occupation will be brutal if they want to quell resistance.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Why single out the Ukrainian government? Are they unique among governments in growing rich?
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
No. That was kind of the point.
dilute micro
esse quam videri
Not sure that Putin is the one to roll the dice on. A no-fly zone would be tested by the Russian air force and if they got shot down it's probably going to happen that missiles would be launched into the country and air base where the planes took off from. On the open seas the whole thing would likely just go nuts. Then ships are in full battle firing on each other. It would be quick and unstoppable. This could get so far out of hand that neither side could stop it.What if whole idea that 'we cant get involved cos that would be WW3' is nonsense.
i think i'm coming round to the point of view in this article, which is mostly about send the fucking planes but this is the main point:
"The Biden administration’s obsession with not giving Russia a pretext to declare us co-belligerents is not only weak; it is strategically pointless. As Latvian Defense Minister Artis Pabriks points out, “If … the Kremlin would like to fight a war against NATO or Europe, they could always find a reason."
That's just true isn't it, the idea that some detail about where the planes are handed over will make the difference between WW3 and not is actually premised on a bunch of assumptions about the rule book that don't really hold up.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Kind of singling out the Ukrainian government for growing rich when all governments grow rich is the point? So there was literally no point to singling out the Ukrainian government?
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