Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[friedaweed]

Liked..


But not for Roidface...

Sorry, I'll edit it to Cuntychops

 

[Mr Moose]

I’d probably not watch it just now…

Don’t worry, Sheffield had recovered from nuclear winter quickly enough to stage the sequel The Full Monty only a few years later.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

’We’ got pissy when Saddam started parading bedraggled captured pilots on TV. It’s not OK, even in the current circumstances.

Erm, you're posting like you're taking issue with and objecting to something I said, but whereabouts in my post did I say it was okay? I don't see what your imaginary disagreement is based on.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

and it turned out we were rank amatures compared to the board who made off with our pension fund

Oh no. Sorry to hear that. I'll bet they got away with it too?

 

[2hats]

Head injuries notoriously bleed profusely, often look much worse than they are.

He's very likely to have sustained injury in crash landing, which of course doesn't also rule out being whacked on the head by someone, but if I was a betting person I'd be putting money on injury sustained while falling out of the sky at high speed.

Why Do Head Injuries Bleed so Much?

A head injury is any trauma to your scalp, skull, or brain. Head injuries can range in severity from a mild bump on your head to a serious brain injury.

healthcare.utah.edu

Ejection is pretty violent.

 

[friedaweed]

Don’t worry, Sheffield had recovered from nuclear winter quickly enough to stage the sequel The Full Monty only a few years later.

Completing the trilogy with Brassed Off.

"Still got your mind on those Pits Andy lad"

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

More Putin stuff.

Fuck alone knows what's going on - he sits at one end of a 50ft table to talk to his most senior mil officers, then fakes an 'up close and personal' briefing on the current operations to a group of (checks notes) trainee air stewards.



The world's on fucking crack.

There's a possibility that could just be down to camera angle.

 

[LDC]

The Russian Air Force Just Had A Terrible Day Over Ukraine

Russia looks to have lost multiple combat jets, helicopters, and a drone in just the past day or so.

www.thedrive.com

Good shooting Albert!

It's well worth a look that article, plenty of non-plane loss related stuff there, including unarmed people confronting occupation forces.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Fuck, I can edit video better than that.

Paging ATOMIC SUPLEX for expert opinion.

What d'you reckon?

 

[belboid]

Completing the trilogy with Brassed Off.

"Still got your mind on those Pits Andy lad"

Nae lad, that were Barnsley

 

[clicker]

Both men appear to be bleeding from under the chin. It could be from their helmet strap following ejection.

 

[bimble]

There are people whose whole job is being a war studies academic who are now saying stuff like this in public, unthinkable a week ago.

 

[friedaweed]

Nae lad, that were Barnsley

Grimethorpe actually. To be precise.

After they all moved north to escape the radio active affects of Robert Carlisle's full frontal attack on Sheffield.

 

[Pickman's model]

There are people whose whole job is being a war studies academic who are now saying stuff like this in public, unthinkable a week ago.

Yes, diamond said that a page or three back

 

[Dogsauce]

Erm, you're posting like you're taking issue with and objecting to something I said, but whereabouts in my post did I say it was okay? I don't see what your imaginary disagreement is based on.

apologies, that was a general point on the issue not directed at you! I was just quoting you as a way of continuing the conversation on it as the comment by itself might not have flowed with the main thread which jumps around a bit, if that follows.

 

[2hats]

Almost as if they have some sort of past experience related to this.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Traffic warden anti-tank brigade or train penalty fares inspector commando?

E2A: of course this sprung to mind...

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[bimble]

Yes, diamond said that a page or three back

Yes. This person agrees with diamond then, and is a professor of war studies. Thanks though your post was very interesting and I enjoyed it.

 

[kebabking]

Mike also - literally - wrote the book on our escapade in Helmand. It's called An intimate war, it was originally a PhD thesis the Army paid for (Mike was an Army officer at the time), which was then published in book form.

It was, err... not overly complimentary.

 

[Cid]

Mike also - literally - wrote the book on our escapade in Helmand. It's called An intimate war, it was originally a PhD thesis the Army paid for (Mike was an Army officer at the time), which was then published in book form.

It was, err... not overly complimentary.

Worth a read?

 

[kebabking]

Worth a read?

Definitely. A political, military (not just at a senior level), intelligence and diplomatic catastrophe.

Brilliantly researched, and very well thought out.

 

[frogwoman]

Women’s basketball superstar Brittney Griner detained in Russia

 

[LDC]

Mike also - literally - wrote the book on our escapade in Helmand. It's called An intimate war, it was originally a PhD thesis the Army paid for (Mike was an Army officer at the time), which was then published in book form.

It was, err... not overly complimentary.

Oh I didn't clock that was him!

Worth a read?

I have little to no knowledge to base it on, or compare it to, but it was a great read I thought, and made lots of sense. It's a bit anthropological, a bit historical, and a bit then using those to explain why the military strategy just didn't work as it was thought it might. It was discussed or at least mentioned somewhere else on the forum. There's a whole load of anthropological stuff used by the US that's a bit related. Human Terrain System - Wikipedia

There's a good summary/review of the book here View of Mike Martin. An Intimate War: An Oral History of the Helmand Conflict. London, UK: C. Hurst & Co., 2014. and bit more here An Incompetent War: Britain in Helmand - War on the Rocks

The Russian equivalent to be written in 2025 might be one page with this in big type...

WE JUST FUCKED EVERYTHING UP.

 

[gosub]

Almost as if they have some sort of past experience related to this.

that's very gracious of them, seeing as they won't have any airlines by the end of the month

 

[gosub]

Oh I didn't clock that was him!



I have little to no knowledge to base it on, or compare it to, but it was a great read I thought, and made lots of sense. It's a bit anthropological, a bit historical, and a bit then using those to explain why the military strategy just didn't work as it was thought it might. It was discussed or at least mentioned somewhere else on the forum. There's a whole load of anthropological stuff used by the US that's a bit related. Human Terrain System - Wikipedia

There's a good summary/review of the book here View of Mike Martin. An Intimate War: An Oral History of the Helmand Conflict. London, UK: C. Hurst & Co., 2014. and bit more here An Incompetent War: Britain in Helmand - War on the Rocks

The Russian equivalent to be written in 2025 might be one page with this in big type...

WE JUST FUCKED EVERYTHING UP.

Russia must have known they were in trouble when Trump called Putin a genius

 

[Cid]

Definitely. A political, military (not just at a senior level), intelligence and diplomatic catastrophe.

Brilliantly researched, and very well thought out.

Oh I didn't clock that was him!



I have little to no knowledge to base it on, or compare it to, but it was a great read I thought, and made lots of sense. It's a bit anthropological, a bit historical, and a bit then using those to explain why the military strategy just didn't work as it was thought it might. It was discussed or at least mentioned somewhere else on the forum. There's a whole load of anthropological stuff used by the US that's a bit related. Human Terrain System - Wikipedia

There's a good summary/review of the book here View of Mike Martin. An Intimate War: An Oral History of the Helmand Conflict. London, UK: C. Hurst & Co., 2014. and bit more here An Incompetent War: Britain in Helmand - War on the Rocks

The Russian equivalent to be written in 2025 might be one page with this in big type...

WE JUST FUCKED EVERYTHING UP.

Yeah I am very interested by work that includes some anthropological element these days, and sounds like he put the work in. I like a good popular history tome, but really don't think they're that useful beyond basic information... thing I've increasingly started to realise is that the key to human conflict is the humans. Contradictory, messy, brilliant and fucking stupid by turns. Stochastics I suppose. I shall place it beside the enormous pile of books on China I haven't read yet.

 

[frogwoman]

 

[bimble]

Really recommend reading this.

The American Pundits Who Can’t Resist “Westsplaining” Ukraine

John Mearsheimer and other foreign policy figures are treating Russia’s invasion of Ukraine like a game of Risk.

newrepublic.com

 

[Sue]

I am going to nick 'Don't be like Satan' and use it whenever anyone annoys me.

 

[frogwoman]

How does Putin extract himself from this nightmare of his own making? does anyone know how to do the paywall thing? Pickman's model maybe?