Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
I read on another thread that Russian media have done a rare frontline piece from Hostemel. Not sure if this is the right vid or not so apols if it's not. Looks like it was probably shot when they first hit the airport and has been released now the Ukrainians have paid a visit.
Russia state media shows rare footage of reporter at Hostomel airport, outside of Kyiv
Russia has ramped up assaults on key Ukrainian cities, as President Zelensky pleads for more international assistance and a second round of talks between Ukraine and Russia are set to take place. Follow here for live news updates from on the ground in Ukraine.
The Ukrainian vid shows a load of russian trucks with tyres shot out and some buildings on fire.
Not sure even if they gained control of the airport again how feasable if would be to get anything in and out of there given the situation on the ground but then what do I know from my computer in Wales.
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
I read that earlier. The propaganda machine is in full warp speed now.
There was talk about mass demonstrations on Sunday. Have you heard anything about that Froggy?
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
I have aye but on here, think Russians have gone quiet about any demos for obvious reasons.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
I read on another thread that Russian media have done a rare frontline piece from Hostemel. Not sure if this is the right vid or not so apols if it's not. Looks like it was probably shot when they first hit the airport and has been released now the Ukrainians have paid a visit.
Russia state media shows rare footage of reporter at Hostomel airport, outside of Kyiv
Russia has ramped up assaults on key Ukrainian cities, as President Zelensky pleads for more international assistance and a second round of talks between Ukraine and Russia are set to take place. Follow here for live news updates from on the ground in Ukraine.edition.cnn.com
The Ukrainian vid shows a load of russian trucks with tyres shot out and some buildings on fire.
Not sure even if they gained control of the airport again how feasable if would be to get anything in and out of there given the situation on the ground but then what do I know from my computer in Wales.
Doesn‘t really show much at all, the same 5-second clip looped which shows some apparently undamaged trucks with something on fire in the background.
There was a several minute long video of destroyed Russian tanks someone posted the other day, which was just one tank shown several times from different angles. There seems to be a bit of this clumsy deception going on in a few of these videos, seems like crap propaganda/exaggeration. Take it with a pinch of salt.
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
Very brave if they do but there's at least some safety in numbers if more than enough people join them. Mass demonstrations are probably the only way to make it count and ensure peoples safety. They can't stick them all in the van .
steveseagull
Well-Known Member
This is a massive climb down from his original demands
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
Oh yes, definitely. I actually found the looped soundtrack to that vid a bit odd. Like if you played it backwards it would say James Blunt isn't a cunt.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
It has older messages than that that Charles Manson would have recognised
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
You can't believe a word that comes out of his arse, if that's all he wants, why on earth is he bombing the shit out of cities?
dilute micro
esse quam videri
Obviously tongue in cheek but on a serious note sanctions should hurt. If his decisions mean a failing economy then so be it. It looks as if he's thinking China's got him covered. Of course he won't think it's his fault. The worst of sanctions, against his energy exports, haven't even been flirted with yet. If that happens Russia will be a bad place to be.
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friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
Maybe this has been his Bond villain game all along. Send in the most depleted part of his army like some sort of sacrificial part exchange, batter the fuck out of the Ukrainian infrastructure, leave the place on it's knees, hit the back pocket of the west and then just go for annexing the Russian separatists areas of Ukraine where he can place Nukes for future reference.
Then it can all calm down and pretty shortly after everyone's going to want some of his candy down the pipeline again
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Not sure if this was posted before.
A western journalist interviewed people in Crimea around the time of the change over after the referendum. Early on in the interviews you hear criticism of Ukraine and nationalism...however as time passes their attitude changes from relative happiness at rejoining Russia to realising within a short time that their lives were and are far worse off under Russian rule.
You can see why Ukraine wants nothing to do with Russia.
Apols if off topic. And can edit if its not appropriate.
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
In times like this it occurs to me that the late great Leonard Cohen had more insight than he was ever given credit for during his lifetime.
bimble
floofy
If control of the narrative within Russia is really effective & really important (as it sounds like it is) , is there a chance he might decide to settle for just declaring victory, on tv at home, regardless of the situation on the ground, wind up the whole operation and try (succeed in a short while probably) to get international relations back to something like they were before?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
had to endure a witless colleague repeating Russian propaganda about crisis actors in fake videos of injured civilians. Can’t deal with that shit or articulate that they getting their news wrong, so had to just walk away
tommers
Busta Rhymes is an unstoppable movement
He's not controlling things so he can stop. It's the opposite.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
That would be good, which means its probably not going to happen
bimble
floofy
yeah.That would be good, which means its probably not going to happen
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
On a self preservation point sometimes it's better not engaging with them than losing your shit and dealing with the lid being lifted off your real feelings of what's going on in the world. Some people are just thick mate.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Theres a lot of that shit going around.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Christ, I can understand people swallowing some some state propaganda but this crisis actor bollocks always amazes me. There's a war on and people get bombed so why the fuck would a crisis actor be required? Even if such a thing exists in the first place. Do they think the yanks reanimated Stanley Kubrick's corpse to film fake European war scenes in New Jersey or summat? It boggles the mind.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
He’s not even pro-Russian or anything. Just anti-MSM or summat. But yeah thick as mince as well.
I’ve also had a staff member showing me videos of things I don’t want to see. Again, they’re not checking the validity of their sources, but what’s really out of order is trying to show people violence when they’ve asked you not to, esp at work in a public place ffs
I’ve also had a staff member showing me videos of things I don’t want to see. Again, they’re not checking the validity of their sources, but what’s really out of order is trying to show people violence when they’ve asked you not to, esp at work in a public place ffs
He's some bastard.
Like he can just roll on up now and say it will all be ok cos once we get our states we will leave the rest of ye alone. Pinky promise...
Maybe this has been his Bond villain game all along. Send in the most depleted part of his army like some sort of sacrificial part exchange, batter the fuck out of the Ukrainian infrastructure, leave the place on it's knees, hit the back pocket of the west and then just go for annexing the Russian separatists areas of Ukraine where he can place Nukes for future reference.
Then it can all calm down and pretty shortly after everyone's going to want some of his candy down the pipeline again
What does he take people for?
Complete idiots?
Anything is possible.
But he has lost a lot of support and his time as president is now limited. IMO.
I think (admittedly this is conjecture) that he is a dead man walking and has been for some time.
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