Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
I think they must want Russia to invade the UK
Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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discokermit
Well-Known Member
putinists under the bed. filthy fifth columnists.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
It's good that Russia under Putin has never done anything dodgy in the UK.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It would be good to get it clear, whether posters on urban are actually being accused of "supporting Russian war crimes".
Can anyone clarify? Is there anyone out there who genuinely believes that other urban posters "support Russian war crimes"?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Would you join up for that?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Loads of allegations of that on this very thread.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
It's not really possible to be politically opposed to Ukraine's self-defence without being politically supportive of Russian victory, regardless of how explicit you are about it.
I'd imagine they don't so much support Russian war-crimes as minimise them and spend time reading about Ukrainian ones.
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
To sit around in Moldova as part of a force that deterred Moscow from playing silly buggers in Transnistria? On full pay? If I was 30 years younger and able-bodied? And if for some unknown reason we’d moved from having a small but professional army to random conscription, like jury service?
Sure. But it’s a pretty odd question.
Happy for my taxes to pay for missiles that take out Putin’s war machine, though, more to the point. As a good European.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Do you think people are "politically opposed to Ukraine's self-defence"? Do you mean on pacifist grounds?
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Tankie grounds, I expect, but ask them, not me.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
You are ignoring the role of the aircraft flown by entities such as the RAF and USAF ...
I was talking more about such things as Patriot batteries and similar ground-based systems.
The missiles etc hung on the current RAF 'planes are less backwardly compatible than some people think.
I hope that the boffins in the defence industry are working on a way to defeat the FAB / guided bombs ... other than relying on shooting down the aircraft involved - which isn't as easy as it sounds, although there are a few late Su-34 pilots that might disagree with that assertion.
discokermit
Well-Known Member
er, i wasnt replying to you?
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
It’s the only reply you’ll get, though, so you might as well enjoy it.
discokermit
Well-Known Member
because what you said is nonsense and you can't defend it.
discokermit
Well-Known Member
anyway, them sanctions really seem to be biting,
Russia to grow faster than all advanced economies says IMF
The IMF estimates Russia's economy will grow faster than the likes of the US, UK and Germany this year.
www.bbc.co.uk
editor
hiraethified
And there's that celebratory, gloating tone again.anyway, them sanctions really seem to be biting,
Russia to grow faster than all advanced economies says IMF
The IMF estimates Russia's economy will grow faster than the likes of the US, UK and Germany this year.www.bbc.co.uk
discokermit
Well-Known Member
in your weird head. anyone who wasn't fucked in the head would call it a sarcastic tone.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
I'm glad I'm not in your fucking head, he said sarcastically.
discokermit
Well-Known Member
im glad you're not within ten miles of me you fucking danger.
discokermit
Well-Known Member
anything to say on the subject of failing sanctions as it pertains to ukraine?
or just more shit?
or just more shit?
editor
hiraethified
Am I fucked in the head, then? As in suffering serious mental health problems? Is that what you're trying to say here?
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
*Sarcasm mode engaged
what do you mean that because i take relish in all news reports of a Russia advance and the thoughts of them winning the war
that you can accuse me of supporting their war crimes .. how dare you
btw if you show any support for Ukraine, you are by direct action a supporter of nazism and the actions of the Waffen SS
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
anyway, them sanctions really seem to be biting,
Russia to grow faster than all advanced economies says IMF
The IMF estimates Russia's economy will grow faster than the likes of the US, UK and Germany this year.www.bbc.co.uk
Perhaps this is an only slightly related question, but have sanctions ever worked?
discokermit
Well-Known Member
thats a good question. worked in what sense?
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
At the goal that was advertised when they were set up.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
They've made hmg feel better about themselves
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
They've worked in Russia, just not to the extent that the west had hoped. Russia's factories are producing less complex arms (eg: T-90M) for themselves than when they were exporting. It's clear that santions on electronics and optics have had an effect there. However, Russia is quite self sufficient in things like artillery shells, mines, and simple drones. Which are what's winning things for them right now. And since tank on tank battles have proven to be quite rare, their stash of old tanks works on their favour.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
It's a good thing you're not a magistrate or judge, with an attitude like that you'd bang people up for simple sarcasm
discokermit
Well-Known Member
i can't think of any.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
That is perhaps the only thing they (sanctions) do - "look, we've done something"
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