Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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TopCat
Putin fanboy
Do people really feel the Ukrainians should fight to the last soldier still?
When the soldiers are dead or injured, the front collapses, the country in ruins; what will you advise the Ukrainians then?
Their leaders have led them down a path of destruction. Their supporters will eventually desert them. No EU any time soon. The loans have to be repaid. It’s not a good future and will worsen the longer this goes on.
When the soldiers are dead or injured, the front collapses, the country in ruins; what will you advise the Ukrainians then?
Their leaders have led them down a path of destruction. Their supporters will eventually desert them. No EU any time soon. The loans have to be repaid. It’s not a good future and will worsen the longer this goes on.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i daresay we're not being told about all the military targets the russians are hitting, just as we're not told how many ukrainian casualties there are
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
there are precedents for changes of leadership during wartime. nicholas ii. churchill. roosevelt. hitler. some perhaps more palatable to zelenskyy (and indeed netanyahu) than others. this 'we can't change leaders at a time like this' is nonsense, whoever says it.
Yossarian
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What would you say to someone who posted:
Do people really feel the Palestinians should fight to the last soldier still?
When the fighters are dead or injured, Gaza in ruins; what will you advise the Palestinians then?
Their leaders have led them down a path of destruction. Their supporters will eventually desert them. No state any time soon. It’s not a good future and will worsen the longer this goes on.
Do people really feel the Palestinians should fight to the last soldier still?
When the fighters are dead or injured, Gaza in ruins; what will you advise the Palestinians then?
Their leaders have led them down a path of destruction. Their supporters will eventually desert them. No state any time soon. It’s not a good future and will worsen the longer this goes on.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
wrong thread.
discokermit
Well-Known Member
ukraine is not gaza.
discokermit
Well-Known Member
you forgot the nuns being bayonetted and babies thrown out of incubators.
Yossarian
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Which well-documented war crime cited by StoneRoad do you consider fictional?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
barely hitting actual military targets
Yossarian
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He can speak for himself
discokermit
Well-Known Member
i would question them all until there was proof.
for instance, we know the un told ukraine to stop hiding military bases amongst civilian infrastructure, like schools, etc.
Yossarian
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If you don't think the Russians have deliberately targeted civilian infrastructure like hospitals or committed war crimes in places in Bucha then I guess I don't have any. more questions for you - it's like talking to the back end of a human centipede with Putin in the front and George Galloway in the middle
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
That's the problem with English, no differentiation between tu/vous
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
starting to sound like a line you hear from the Israelis about gaza
discokermit
Well-Known Member
keep saying gaza, like it is relevant.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
If they want a say in Ukraine's targets, they'll just have to pony up and start sending arms again won't they? Don't get nothing for free.
Zelenskyy irritated by US request not to hit Russian refineries â The Washington Post
US Vice President Kamala Harris met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy during the Munich Security Conference in February and urged him to refrain from striking Russian oil refineries.www.pravda.com.ua
Open discussion of US requests to cease attacking Russian refineries
editor
hiraethified
There's many reasons why I might like a post, and it doesn't always mean that I agree with every single word in them.
If you want my opinion on a topic, try asking directly instead of just projecting whatever's in your head. Thanks.
editor
hiraethified
Yet more war crimes racked up by Putin's obscene regime.This Russian pacifist helped Ukrainians forcibly deported to Russia to return to their homeland. He died last week after six months in custody and there's been a crackdown on other volunteers
In a phone call to his son, Demidenko described being tortured by the Akhmat forces, who he said forced him to confess to the charge. Vishnevskaya also published photographs of her husband in court which showed signs of torture on his body.
Demidenko’s final days remain a mystery. Prison authorities say he died on 5 April. The local Belgorod Bel.ru outlet reported this week citing prison officials that his cause of death was suicide. But Demidenko’s official death certificate, seen by the Observer, states that the cause of death “was not yet established”.
A Russian pacifist helped Ukrainians flee the country. Then the Kremlin caught him
Alexander Demidenko, who guided refugees back to their homeland, was arrested and tortured by Kremlin forces. One of the many he helped recalls his courage and kindnesswww.theguardian.com
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
the selective reasoning on both conflicts is quite interesting to observe
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Please for the love of atheism stop pronouncing things as though you're an expert, it sounds ridiculous. Neither you nor anyone here is well enough informed on the subject to talk certainties.
Jesus
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Over a thousand pages of people doing exactly that.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
oh my you pop up with a reply
be very interested to see your response to yossarian post a few posts up in the thread
also pivoted the flow of the thread to the Israel conflict by mentioning Ben earlier
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
And I have consistently criticised it.
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