The Ashes 2023
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Stokes clearly isn't anywhere near fit. Somehow he's got to play an epic tomorrow on one knee. Got to wonder how much longer he has in the game. 
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I think that was for checking the no-ball.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Stokes clearly isn't anywhere near fit. Somehow he's got to play an epic tomorrow on one knee. Got to wonder how much longer he has in the game.
A lot less time if he keeps playing on a fucked knee.
The catch? I think he knew as soon as he landed on the ground that he'd fucked up. But who knows.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Weird day. Session 2, 98 per cent of the deliveries were short, average length in the bowler's own half. Both teams without a recognised spinner now and once the new ball is done, it's head theory all the way. Eight Neil Wagners. Strange match.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
I thought this was well written.
www.theguardian.com
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They still need six more to win, but then three of those bat below Stuart Broad
and this stat
Pope has played 10 innings against Australia now, with a top score of 42, which he made in the first innings here, and an average of 15. Whatever it is England’s management see in him that makes them believe he is the right man to take over the leadership of this team, you can be fairly sure that Starc and Cummins don’t share it.
Fielding becomes self-flagellation for Stokes and co as England toil away | Andy Bull
A long, bruising day trying to take wickets seemed to take its toll on the hosts, before Australia showed them how it’s done
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They still need six more to win, but then three of those bat below Stuart Broad
and this stat
Pope has played 10 innings against Australia now, with a top score of 42, which he made in the first innings here, and an average of 15. Whatever it is England’s management see in him that makes them believe he is the right man to take over the leadership of this team, you can be fairly sure that Starc and Cummins don’t share it.
WhyLikeThis
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
To my mind, a slightly bigger 'load of rubbish' was McGrath killing on those animals on his 'safari'.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I mean they keep the known cheats Warner and Smith in their side so why should anyone be surprised that Starc is also a cheating cunt?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
It's not cheating, everyone saw what happened. Starc and McGrath just don't understand the law properly.
The most common version of that is someone jumping to take a catch, taking it cleanly but then landing on their arse and grounding the ball. Obviously not out.
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Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Can anyone explain what the controversy is over the Starc non-catch? I genuinely can't see how anyone can claim it as a fair catch - it's not that I disagree with McGrath and co when they say it's a "disgrace", it's that I can't even see the argument they're trying to make.
I'd love for someone on comms to sit with McGrath and watch it back in slow motion, have him say "stop" at the point he thinks the catch is completed.
I'd love for someone on comms to sit with McGrath and watch it back in slow motion, have him say "stop" at the point he thinks the catch is completed.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Happens quite often that players don't know the laws correctly. In this case, they're clear - you need to have both the ball and your body under control. McGrath has made an arse of himself I'm afraid. Should have it explained to him on air really to clear the air.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I don't think Starc was cheating btw. I think he genuinely thought he had it. And next time that happens, he'll make an effort not to steady himself with the ball like that. Cos now he knows.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Duckett looks good. Better than the first innings. He's playing properly, not just riding his luck.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
What kind of professional cricketer doesn't know the rules of the game? It's not an obscure one either, if the ball's hit the ground and you've not got it under control then you've not caught it.
WhyLikeThis
Something, something, something
He grounded it, while not in control. Clearly not out.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Today is already going better than I thought it would. I don't think there's enough batting left to even try and close out the game for a draw but I'll take a defeat with a couple of proper grown-up test batting performances at this point.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
No shit?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Well McGrath and Starc for two. It would have been cheating if there was an attempt to deceive but that wasn’t the case. They just thought that the catch was complete when he controlled the ball but that’s not enough. The body has to be controlled too. McGrath clearly didn’t get that because he argued about it at quite some length, making himself look a knob.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
What the fuck was that. Australia are just utter filth to a man.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Was shitty, alright...but Bairstow was dumb.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
It was out. Bairstow was an idiot. I was thinking 'you can't do that' (walk away from the stumps) before Carey had even thrown the ball.
skyscraper101
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Totally. But Bairstow should know better that that. If he thought Australia wouldn’t take advantage of an opportunity like that then he’s an idiot. I have no doubt England would’ve done the same given half a chance.
England have been so short sighted in this test series. Australia have capitalised on it. It was out. No question about it.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Funny how they know the rules so well when it suits them though.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Stop whining. He was out. Anyone who thinks we wouldn’t have done that is kidding themselves. Bairstow was a tit.
