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Unconfirmed reports its already begun.
Operation pillar of cloud. Israeli assault on Gaza
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Unconfirmed reports its already begun.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Anyone have any insight into the possible wider motivation for this - as in why now?
dylans
overlord of all acorns
Elections.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Ah ok. And what of the Israeli Labour Party in this?
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
I wouldn't do something that made things much worse for absolutely no discernible benefit.
It's the latest in a long line of fucking bonehead moves that plays into Israeli hands.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh. but it's dark. so you'll see it in the morning.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you haven't read this thread, have you? or you wouldn't post things like this ^^ which make you look a cunt.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
tbh, the point is for many Palestinians that things can't get much worse. For some, it's better to die on your feet...
dylans
overlord of all acorns
Its all they fucking have.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yep. And the founding myths of many nations rest on heroic defeats in their past. That you're not going to win isn't always the point.
dylans
overlord of all acorns
Oh I'm sure they will be cheering it on. It would be political suicide for any party to oppose this which Netanyahu knows of course. Expect a wave of really nasty nationalistic bollocks to sweep Israel as is usual when these things happen.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
What moves can they make that don't 'play into Israeli hands'? I'm sure they'd welcome your suggestions.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
oh shut up you stupid boy
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
No it's not. The kidnapping of Gilad Shalit and chaining him up in a falafel shop basement for five years achieved a lot more than any rocket attack. They could do more of that.
Turning Gaza into a Cayman Islands style tax haven would help a lot too. International capital takes a dim view of people who blow up its banks.
They obviously absolutely fucking suck at rocketeering and should give it up as a bad job. Also, whatever minute military effectiveness their pathetic contraptions might have once had has been degraded by Iron Dome.
Go away and if possible die,cunt.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
His one other post was in praise of the EDL.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Is exactly how they justify it, particularly to the US - we're like you when you killed bin Laden.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
he couldn't kill time, let alone bin laden.
teqniq
DisMembered
Oh jolly good show then
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
that is, they're about to do something particularly bloody and don't want anyone to see.
dylans
overlord of all acorns
The point is there is a time and a place for a discussion about the strategic alternatives to rocket actions or guerilla actions etc but right now, a time when they are under attack is not it. Now is a time for solidarity
(but kidnapping more IDF troops is a good idea I agree)
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
grand. i wonder what they say, don't come out and pick this leaflet up because we'll shoot you with a drone?
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Where's that from?
teqniq
DisMembered
The ustream guy is worth a watch he seems to think that this is now not the case
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/operation-pillar-of-cloud
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
It's not up to you when the best time and place for any particular discussion is.
Hamas have a track record of making mainly very bad decisions that have made the lot of the average Gazan very miserable. To cheer them on with unquestioning fervour every time they choose to stick their cocks in a hornets' nest in the cause of irrational nationalist egoism is a betrayal of the Palestinian people.
Deareg
Well-Known Member
If you had been in the Warsaw Ghetto would you have been against the uprising?
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