Egypt won't do anything militarily. They'd lose all US aid. Israel would love Iran to get involved. Israel would then have an excuse to attack. Arab leaders visiting Gaza to show support is about all they can do I think. Hollande has made a slight sympathetic move by contacting Morsi instead of Net. A visit to Gaza by French diplomats would shake up Israel.
Operation pillar of cloud. Israeli assault on Gaza
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dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
Treacle Toes
Time
Something I don't like about the 'Harry fear' feed....can't put my finger on it...
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
the indicator on the photo in the original claim was that the trailing edge of the wings was swept back, not as much as the leading edge, but still obvious and definate - in the photo DR has posted (conveniently in plan form, the same view as the original photo in the claim), the trailing edge of the F-16's wing can be seen to be completely straight and sticking out at 90 degrees to the fuselage. theres no way the two aircraft could be confused from underneath/on top in such clear photos.
they may - though i seriously doubt it at this stage - have shot down an IDF F-16, but the photo they posted wasn't evidence of it happening.
they may - though i seriously doubt it at this stage - have shot down an IDF F-16, but the photo they posted wasn't evidence of it happening.
audiotech
wav, aiff, mp3, ogg, flac
Something I don't like about the 'Harry fear' feed....can't put my finger on it...
Is involved in a debate on RT with Norman Finkelstein and Dan Pollak:
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I'm holding off judgement,it's all a little strange but remember rumours must be rife all over Gaza.I think he's being quite professional,but he is a snotty nosed teenager with an eye on fame,anything is possible.Something I don't like about the 'Harry fear' feed....can't put my finger on it...
elbows
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elbows
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Please note that I consider my dislike of 'Nathan Barley meets Gaza' to be a very distant second to the horrific events taking place, and I shouldnt go too far in condemning someone who is trying to report fro the underreported side of the conflict. However since he clearly has a vibrant ego and when I've watched his feed he has reported a lot of untrue stuff, I took a moment to get wound up by him, and do not consider him an especially useful source. Perhaps that might change at some point but I wont hold my breath.
Meanwhile I see that there are reports some missiles were fired from the Sinai peninsula earlier. Not actually that surprising really, and Egypt has had security problems in that region for many months now.
Meanwhile I see that there are reports some missiles were fired from the Sinai peninsula earlier. Not actually that surprising really, and Egypt has had security problems in that region for many months now.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Is there a real possibility this attack will provoke a wider regional war in the Middle East?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
not really no
who would you suggest it would be between? the syrians and the israelis? the egyptians and the israelis? the israelis and the jordanians? the israelis and the lebanese? some sort of to and fro with the iranians? pls suggest some adversaries for the israelis, preferably credible ones.
To be fair to him if I were in Gaza City right now listening to explosions going off I'd probably be crying in the corner praying for my life, not trying to keep a running commentary of events to people on the internet.
elbows
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Indeed, and I'm sure I would be even worse. I dont see the point if he is going to report rumours as if they were facts though, watching someone cowering in fear might even be more useful.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I'm more interested in what people think without shaping it with my views on this one.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
so you can't think of an opposing side either for this wider regional war you're asking about
Buckaroo
Donkey piss and tractors
'Nathan Barley meets Gaza'! He's polished alright. keep it dusty. Go Norman, pillar of cloud is psychopathic language and they are the most cowardly army, always go after the easiest targets, bottle it with Hezbollah but hit Gaza, shooting fish in a barrel is right.
Treacle Toes
Time
Martyred in Gaza - a documentary by Harry Fear for GazaReport.com
Harry must have a quite a set up there. :/
HIs blog: http://www.harryfear.co.uk/blog/gaza-report/martyred-in-gaza
Harry must have a quite a set up there. :/
HIs blog: http://www.harryfear.co.uk/blog/gaza-report/martyred-in-gaza
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
Has he posted a picture of the same child's toy more than once yet?
elbows
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elbows
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Live Gaza skyline video here: http://live.reuters.com/Event/Conflict_on_the_Gaza_Strip
From various twitter reports they had a bit of quiet for a while but that was recently shattered by another explosion.
From various twitter reports they had a bit of quiet for a while but that was recently shattered by another explosion.
dylans
overlord of all acorns
No I don't think so but I think it will piss of the neighbours and not just out of a sense of solidarity. If Morsi keeps his promise to keep Rafah open (and he claims it is now open 24/7) and if Israel launch a ground assault then Egypt is going to see a serious refugee influx into Sinai and possible attacks from there against Israel which will put Egypt and the peace treaty in a spot especially if Israel demand Morsi moves to crack down on resistance forces operating from Egyptian soil. If Morsi does he will lose credibility at home. If he doesn't then Israel may strike against the resistance forces operating from Egypt and then we do have an international incident.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I can but I've given my reason for not saying, so quite being a prick about it.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Cheers for the view/thoughts. Glad someone was able to engage their brain on this simple request.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Pity it wasn't you.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Pity you couldn't offer anything other than your usual idiotic contributions tbh...
weltweit
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On Any questions one panel member suggested nay rejoiced that Israel had struck Gaza 200 times with something like less than 30 casualties and claimed this was remarkable and showed their accurate targetting and avoiding of civilian casualties. I suspect there will have been a lot more Gaza civilian casualties than have so far been reported.
teqniq
DisMembered
What with the pix of the planes and and the following, my initial scepticism has congealed into 'nope it's all bollox' so apologies for posting the tweet that claimed this in the first place. The person who tweeted that later tweeted a link to a facebook page with a photo claiming to show id from the Israeli pilot. The picture had 'AFP' and 'Getty images' embossed through it, ha ha. She took down the link shortly thereafter as it's veracity had been called into question. The pic was actually from 2006.
Grandma Death
Reconfiguring & Reconstructing
Without reading the thread can someone tell me why hamas started lobbing rockets into Israel?
sunny jim
A pikey fluffy type
Anonymous have been up to shenanigans with Israeli government websites......
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/...tabases-leaks-emails-addresses-and-passwords/
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/...tabases-leaks-emails-addresses-and-passwords/
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