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Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

What about the recent time the Ukrainians did just that, where those soldiers were waiting to listen to that major general? Didn't see you raising this point then.
Probably not all of them were armed, but it was a large explosion and it's fairly certain that some of those present would be armed.

That said, it's total bullshit that you can't shoot an unarmed soldier under the Geneva Conventions. They must be unarmed and surrendering.
 
That said, it's total bullshit that you can't shoot an unarmed soldier under the Geneva Conventions. They must be unarmed and surrendering.
That wasn't what was posed. What does the GC have to say about attacking hospitals wether civilian or military? :hmm:
 
That wasn't what was posed. What does the GC have to say about attacking hospitals wether civilian or military? :hmm:
I was replying to Pickman's facetious What If. Obviously no, hospitals are out of bounds under The Rules but the Russians have already showed a somewhat more flagrant disregard for said rules than most militaries of developed countries do. (Because let's face it, they've all broken them at one time or another. It's just how often and with how much enthusiasm that makes Russia special)
 
I was replying to Pickman's facetious What If. Obviously no, hospitals are out of bounds under The Rules but the Russians have already showed a somewhat more flagrant disregard for said rules than most militaries of developed countries do. (Because let's face it, they've all broken them at one time or another. It's just how often and with how much enthusiasm that makes Russia special)
The simple point was something can be wholly and utterly military - a military target - yet wholly off-limits as a legitimate target. Demarking things as military or civilian targets illuminates nothing and appeals more to cheap emotions. But I know how much you prefer to refuse to engage with an argument in its entirety instead mischaracterising a portion of it.
 
The simple point was something can be wholly and utterly military - a military target - yet wholly off-limits as a legitimate target. Demarking things as military or civilian targets illuminates nothing and appeals more to cheap emotions. But I know how much you prefer to refuse to engage with an argument in its entirety instead mischaracterising a portion of it.
How am I mischaracterising a single sentence. If what you wrote wasn't what you meant, that's only on one of us. But I'm pleased you've had the opportunity to know me so well at least.
 
There's no what if in there for a start.
That was, belive it or not, giving you the benefit of the doubt that you weren't seriously comparing the two. Facetious, as I said. If you were dead serious about the comparison, then I'm sorry that you're just a cunt. I actually thought better.

Edit: No, I still don't think that, but I was angry for a minute about it. I'm sorry, though I still disagree vehemently if you think they were the same thing. My mum is visiting and everyone is on edge.
 
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That was, belive it or not, giving you the benefit of the doubt that you weren't seriously comparing the two. Facetious, as I said. If you were dead serious about the comparison, then I'm sorry that you're just a cunt. I actually thought better.
We're all cunts here, I thought you'd got that memo years ago. But with regards to the current exchange I think where you're going wrong is in not actually reading the posts, instead just looking at them. Your introduction of the gc, for example. My post to would be about the shelling of the military parade was exploring their views. They brought up not shooting unarmed soldiers (which would make conducting military operations much more complicated than they are already). Tbh I'm baffled by your post which doesn't seem to me to reflect any rational or most irrational readings of the recent exchange.
 
We're all cunts here, I thought you'd got that memo years ago. But with regards to the current exchange I think where you're going wrong is in not actually reading the posts, instead just looking at them. Your introduction of the gc, for example. My post to would be about the shelling of the military parade was exploring their views. They brought up not shooting unarmed soldiers (which would make conducting military operations much more complicated than they are already). Tbh I'm baffled by your post which doesn't seem to me to reflect any rational or most irrational readings of the recent exchange.
I may very well be confused today. It's not a good day at Casa C and I should probably stay the hell away from this thread rather than trying to escape through it. I still read it all different, but I concede that I'm not the most rational player today. Mum's been constantly not controlling her diabetes while visiting from Canada and insisting that she's just fine when she's clearly making no sense to not just myself. That probably belongs more in the pissed off thread than shitting in here.
 
I may very well be confused today. It's not a good day at Casa C and I should probably stay the hell away from this thread rather than trying to escape through it. I still read it all different, but I concede that I'm not the most rational player today. Mum's been constantly not controlling her diabetes while visiting from Canada and insisting that she's just fine when she's clearly making no sense to not just myself. That probably belongs more in the pissed off thread than shitting in here.
Let's reconvene at another time, and I hope peace is soon restored to casa chz
 
The UK dropped a total of 106 cluster bombs on the Falklands, an area of the world with a population density that makes rural Ukraine look like Tokyo, spent years using the couple of garrisons it has hanging around there cleaning it up and there is still cluster contamination in the Falklands. So yes, that sounds easy, should have it all sorted in a jiffy.
No they didn't they just fenced off the Areas and the SEVERAL MILLION antipersonnel mines laid by Argentina.
 
The last (known) mines were cleared a couple of years ago.

The UK sub-munitions (106 BL755 cluster bombs, each with 140 or so anti-vehicle sub-munitions) we're all dropped at Stanley airport, Goose Green airfield and during the battle and (I think) Pebble Island airfield. The ones at the airfields were all accounted for by 1983 or so, but an area south of Goose Green was fenced off till about 2018.

The Argentine mines were either obvious (laid on a road surface for example) and could be cleared quickly, or hidden. After the surrender a couple of Argentine engineer officers gave some assistance in identifying the minefields, but they were a small minority. Some of the minefields were laid professionally,and mapped, but the Argentine government refused to provide the maps, and others were laid randomly - including lobbing them out of a helicopter onto beaches - and no records were kept.

Most of the mines were laid around Stanley, and in the hills surrounding it, but there was a belt of unmarked mines around Goose Green, and at Fox Bay and Pebble Island on West Falkland. They were used quite liberally at Grytviken and King Edwards point on South Georgia as well - the buildings at Grytviken were taped off when I was there in the '00s.
 
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