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Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

It would be an appalling failure on the part of Russia's air defence that so many "Ukrainian" drones made it to Moscow, so I'm inclined to agree. And Russia has form for attacking its own in order to create a justification for whatever they're doing - the 1999 apartment bombings, for example, which Putin used as a justification for going into Chechnya.

So much of what Russia has been doing in Ukraine seems to have been more about creating propaganda for its own people that it's hard to rule out the possibility that they attacked their own city in order to bolster up enthusiasm for its war in Ukraine.
Do the drones have to "make it to Moscow"? There are an awful lot of Ukrainians and others sympathetic to the Ukrainian living in Russia and it can't be that much of a challenge to launch drones from an isolated location near the Capital.
 
Do the drones have to "make it to Moscow"? There are an awful lot of Ukrainians and others sympathetic to the Ukrainian living in Russia and it can't be that much of a challenge to launch drones from an isolated location near the Capital.

I did rather wonder if this was another side of the Free Russian Leigon or whatever coin - the Ukrainian diaspora inside Russia is huge, I should imagine there are plenty of sympathetic folk - and the border, remarkably for their being a war on, barely exists in the ground.
 
I did rather wonder if this was another side of the Free Russian Leigon or whatever coin - the Ukrainian diaspora inside Russia is huge, I should imagine there are plenty of sympathetic folk - and the border, remarkably for their being a war on, barely exists in the ground.

But, surely a state player had to provide these drones to any group wanting to have ago?

I mean the images show they are fairly big, not something easily available at a local hobby shop or from amazon.

Which is why I commented earlier 'this comment suggests they were 'indirectly involved'...

Ukrainian presidential aide Mykhailo Podolyak denied Kyiv was directly involved in targeting Moscow on Tuesday, though he said “we are pleased to watch” and forecast more to come.
 
Do the drones have to "make it to Moscow"? There are an awful lot of Ukrainians and others sympathetic to the Ukrainian living in Russia and it can't be that much of a challenge to launch drones from an isolated location near the Capital.
Moscow's air defence has always been their highest priority. Sure, someone could have launched drones some smaller distance from Moscow, but you'd have expected that air defence to have made at least a token effort. They've been parking Pantsir on top of buildings, FFS...

So either they're really rubbish, or something else is going on.
 
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It’s almost certainly a legit Ukrainian attack. Those that impacted high-rise residential buildings likely did so accidentally while trying to fly low, combined with GPS signal blocking by Russia causing them to stray from intended targets. These drones don’t carry much payload (in part because of the distance they have to travel), not enough to damage buildings (so no point aiming for them anyway) but enough to for example set a fuel tank ablaze. Several seemed to have been heading for the airport.

The benefit to Ukraine is to demonstrate to moscow after days of attempted bombardment of Kyiv that they have the capability (in a limited way) to strike back, and that they can get that deep into the country while avoiding air defence. It will also force Russia to retain air defence equipment internally, limiting what they can field at the front.
 
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Do the drones have to "make it to Moscow"? There are an awful lot of Ukrainians and others sympathetic to the Ukrainian living in Russia and it can't be that much of a challenge to launch drones from an isolated location near the Capital.
They wouldn’t need such long range equipment as used here, a commercial drone with a small amount of explosives launched from a few miles away would have the same effect, and could be controlled directly in real time to make sure the target was hit. A much better option for internal sabotage.
 
I was under the impression Russia was very happy for Ukraine to shoot down these devices, to reduce the number of counter-missiles the Ukrainians have.
Exactly this - sending dozens of relatively cheap drones every night will run down stocks very quickly. I saw someone claim that Ukraine had used as many Patriot missiles in the last couple of weeks as are produced annually. That’s not a sustainable situation. They won’t need to blow up the Patriot battery if it had no missiles left. Ukraine is of course using other means to down these aircraft, including Manpads which are cheaper and available in larger numbers.
 
It’s almost certainly a legit Ukrainian attack. Those that impacted high-rise residential buildings almost certainly did so accidentally while trying to fly low, combined with GPS signal blocking by Russia causing them to stray from intended targets. These drones don’t carry much payload (in part because of the distance they have to travel), not enough to damage buildings (so no point aiming for them anyway) but enough to for example set a fuel tank ablaze. Several seemed to have been heading for the airport.

The benefit to Ukraine is to demonstrate to moscow after days of attempted bombardment of Kyiv that they have the capability (in a limited way) to strike back, and that they can get that deep into the country while avoiding air defence. It will also force Russia to retain air defence equipment internally, limiting what they can field at the front.
Yes, 100% this.

I liked this from Aric Toler at Bellingcat. If you're going to do a false flag attack, then you have to actually do something to escalate in response to it. Russia has just carried on doing exactly what it was already doing.

 
Yes, 100% this.

I liked this from Aric Toler at Bellingcat. If you're going to do a false flag attack, then you have to actually do something to escalate in response to it. Russia has just carried on doing exactly what it was already doing.


It's easy to call "false flag" on anything that looks incompetent or rigged when the enemy do it. But, sometimes - and, TBF, Russia is pretty good at this - the enemy just makes mistakes, or their enemy comes up with something a bit special. Ukraine is very good at keeping that space vague. Some smaller, non-governmental grouping might not be able to resist claiming it as their "win", but I suspect there have been a lot of "smoking accidents" - to the point that they are regular themes of memes - that have been anything but accidental. Including, I suspect, most of the various big bangs in Crimea, and notably the Kerch Bridge, which Ukraine have never claimed credit for, while smirkingly tapping their noses the whole time.
 
Uncle Vlad's alternative reality:

"Kyiv chose the path of intimidation of Russian citizens and attacks on residential buildings," Putin said. "We are concerned about attempts to evoke a response from Russia. It seems that is what they (Ukraine) want ... Kyiv provokes us to mirror actions. We will see what to do about this."

"The Moscow air defense system worked satisfactorily,” he added. “However, there is still work to be done to make it better. The Russian Armed Forces strike exclusively with long-range high-precision weapons and only at military infrastructure facilities. Of course, some portion of these strikes is aimed at the military headquarters as well as headquarters of the Ukrainian military intelligence, which was hit two to three days ago.”


The Russian Foreign Ministry joins in the fantasy:

“Russia reserves the right to take the most severe measures in response to the terrorist attacks of the Kyiv regime. Assurances from NATO officials that the Kyiv regime will not strike deep into Russian territory turn out to be completely hypocritical.”
 
Without resorting to nukes, I'm not sure that Russia has the capability to escalate any further. But I can think of other reasons for a false flag operation, firstly to shore up public support for the war at home and secondly to try and manipulate public opinion abroad. I'm sure lot of these Russian commentators don't believe the garbage they're pushing but some might very well do so.
 
Interesting update from the MoD, "this is "highly likely" the first call for Vladimir Putin to be replaced on Russian state-approved TV since it began", I guess that depends on him not cancelling the election and not rigging it enough. 🤷‍♂️

 
Quick cut and paste summary

My name is Daria , I was born in Russia.In 2000, we moved with the whole family to Ukraine. When I returned to Russia, I also joined the nationalist protest movement. I was a member of DPNI (Movement Against Illegal Immigration) and participated in the organization of the first Russian marches. I am Russian and have always called myself that.

In 2012 I had to return to Kyiv. Of course, I supported the Revolution of Dignity in Ukraine. In February 2014, I was a participant in the events on Hrushevsky Street. The fight against the pro-Russian regime has become the meaning of life for me.
Back in mid-February, it was clear that war with Russia was inevitable. On the evening of February 23, I saw off my future husband with a friend to the DUK PS (Volunteer Ukrainian Corps "Right Sector") in the ATO zone, and on the morning of the 24th, the first rockets flew to Kiev. The division of "Da Vinci Wolves" (Daria's husband turned out to be in it. - Ed. ) was taken to the Dnieper for reformulation. And a week later, despite my husband's reluctance to drag me into the war, I was enrolled in the medical service of the Right Sector. Since then, my husband and I have been fighting together.

When an offer was received to go to the Azov regiment , my husband and I decided to transfer. Since “Shamil” (husband’s call sign. - Ed. ) still has Russian citizenship, this was a chance for official registration [in the army]. There we met with the guys from the future "Russian Volunteer Corps". I knew Denis White Rex back in Moscow: given the similarity of our views with him, it was decided to transfer to the RDK. The opportunity to unite Russian guys who want to fight against the Russian authorities with weapons in their hands was very well received by us.

I have no right to expand on the operations carried out by the RDK. But many aspects of the activities of the RDC were widely covered by the media. For example, a raid in the Bryansk region [at the beginning of March 2023], in which I took part.

In both campaigns "for the tape" my tasks were slightly different. The first time [during a sortie to the village of Sushany in the Bryansk region] I acted as a combat medic - I went with a group and until the moment the wounded appeared, I was considered the same combat unit.

On the second operation [with the entry into the outpost of the Russian border troops from the territory of the Chernihiv region] I already worked on a medevac (medical evacuation. - Ed. ) with other doctors. We stood at the closest points to the "tape": if there was a wound, we would provide assistance and evacuate to the nearest hospital. Medics are always the last to leave - only after the last fighter is removed from the task. Luckily, there were no casualties in both operations. This, in general, is my work.

As for the "Legion " Freedom of Russia "", I'm not sure that they really exist as a combat unit. For more than a year of the war, we have never crossed paths with them. They ignore all offers to work together. Yes, and the very personality of Ilya Ponomarev causes concern. Draw your own conclusions.

The "Russian Volunteer Corps" has an official status in Ukraine and is part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Many fighters in the RDC are citizens of the aggressor country, and the legal status of the unit in which they fight, first of all, gives them security guarantees. Among other things, the RDK receives weapons, supplies and material support, like all other formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the National Guard and the Terodefense are our “allies”: to establish interaction with them is a matter of combat effectiveness on the entire sector of the front. Often this relationship is like with close relatives. It is not for nothing that in Ukraine there is such a thing as “twinning”. There are also many ethnic Russians with Ukrainian citizenship among these guys
 
Interesting update from the MoD, "this is "highly likely" the first call for Vladimir Putin to be replaced on Russian state-approved TV since it began", I guess that depends on him not cancelling the election and not rigging it enough. 🤷‍♂️


With shots like this across his bows, I would doubt that the past tolerance towards his electoral shenanigans would be unlikely to be extended to a further blatantly-rigged election.
 
It’s a great pity that social media gives any amount of coverage to far right groups fighting Russia , whilst passing them off as ‘perfectly normal people ‘ but very little coverage to any of the left groups . Aside from Jake Hanrahan’s YouTube clip on a small anarchist / anti fascist group I’ve not seen much else and I’ve not seen anything further on that group either . Wonder what happened to them ?
 
This is Victoria Ivashko, 9 years old, keen student of judo.

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This is her grandfather:

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What is under that sheet is Victoria Ivashko.



Her is her grandmother:

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Putin's Russia chose to kill Victoria Ivashko on Children's day.



Still, fash in the Azov and that, hey.
 
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