Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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ohmyliver
poppin' like a cork
I hear it's having issues with Papal anyways
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Repairs completed is different from bridge usable. The rail line was in use again pretty quickly, I think.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
In a way Musk is quite a useful "richest person in the world" because every time he indulges in petty shit like this it's a reminder that actually meritocracy is a lie and letting billionaires do whatever they like is foolish. Bill Gates by contrast was quite good at maintaining the illusion when he was number one.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
In fairness, Lockheed, Raytheon etc. all get paid in full for their missiles and guns.
WhyLikeThis
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It is all about Musk. The only question is where he sits in the the Venn diagram of “cunt, compromised, greedy, fool, corrupt”.
It’d be a shame if he accidentally fell out of a window.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh it'd be better if he was pushed
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Sorry, I put that badly. Wrote it in a hurry.
"It's complicated but it's not just about Musk withholding service. Lots of people are paying for their connections just like we do for our broadband so even if he is whining about not getting paid...he is."
It would not be a shame if a rocket ship fell on his head.
tim
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Who wants to be fair to either arms dealers or Musk?
elbows
Well-Known Member
In this case I believe the bridge lacks capability to support HGVs until further work is done, but lighter vehicles have been able to use it.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
I've looked for videos of rail traffic and couldn't find anything. May be on RT?
3.5 tonne road vehicles max according to a couple of news sources.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
strung out
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Joke doesn't work if you take that into account though.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Freight traffic resumed after bomb blast on Crimea Bridge
Rail freight traffic has resumed on the Crimea Bridge, which was temporarily closed due to a truck bombing on Saturday 8 October. The bridge that…
However, it's "According to the Russian ministry of Transport"
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Freight traffic resumed after bomb blast on Crimea Bridge
Rail freight traffic has resumed on the Crimea Bridge, which was temporarily closed due to a truck bombing on Saturday 8 October. The bridge that…www.railfreight.com
However, it's "According to the Russian ministry of Transport"
Well that's that then. Must be true.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Regardless of what you think of Musk, why would anyone expect his, or any other corporation, to supply Ukraine for nothing?
Do you think the manufacturers of all the other kit are just giving it away?
Supine
Newt Member
I thought they were pissed off with the equipment not working near Crimea and his proposed peace plan that gave away territory. Not the running costs.
WhyLikeThis
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He’s not paying for it. The US and Poland have been paying enormous amounts, plus individuals in Ukraine. Musk implied he’s been forking out from the goodness of his heart to dupe most people who don’t look at the details.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
No, that's not correct.
His claim is that Washington and crowd-funding are covering part of the cost but SpaceX is still out of pocket by about $80mio.
JimW
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Is that out of pocket as in not getting the normal/expected revenue for the kit? Still not the same as actually coughing up fat sums if so.
WhyLikeThis
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He says $80m. Putting trust in Musk is demonstrably misguided. Others who know who’s paying are mightily pissed off.
“Though Musk has received widespread acclaim and thanks for responding to requests for Starlink service to Ukraine right as the war was starting, in reality, the vast majority of the 20,000 terminals have received full or partial funding from outside sources, including the US government, the UK and Poland, according to the SpaceX letter to the Pentagon.
SpaceX’s request that the US military foot the bill has rankled top brass at the Pentagon, with one senior defense official telling CNN that SpaceX has “the gall to look like heroes” while having others pay so much and now presenting them with a bill for tens of millions per month.
According to the SpaceX figures shared with the Pentagon, about 85% of the 20,000 terminals in Ukraine were paid – or partially paid – for by countries like the US and Poland or other entities. Those entities also paid for about 30% of the internet connectivity, which SpaceX says costs $4,500 each month per unit for the most advanced service. (Over the weekend, Musk tweeted there are around 25,000 terminals in Ukraine.)”
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Why should the war in Ukraine cost SpaceX anything at all?
Are the manufacturers of all the other arms and ammunition that's going in there subsidising UKR?
Yossarian
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Musk said the $80 million he's talking about includes the cost to "create, launch, maintain & replenish satellites" - wouldn't they have been up there anyway? The number of Starlink subscribers has more than tripled since the start of the war, he's probably getting his money's worth in free advertising.
This is just Musk being a dick again because his stupid idea was rejected in strong terms, same as happened with his Thailand cave rescue shit.
This is just Musk being a dick again because his stupid idea was rejected in strong terms, same as happened with his Thailand cave rescue shit.
WhyLikeThis
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Again, you’re taking him at his unreliable word.
nogojones
spelling is overrated
that's got to hurt. I can drive twice that on my licence.
8ball
Ejected from the secure unit
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Bayraktar has donated a few UAVs, because they see the value in the positive publicity they were getting earlier in the war, like a product advert. Musk has probably got loads of good publicity off Ukraine using his kit too, which he’s now pissed up a wall by being a contrarian arsehole.
nogojones
spelling is overrated
Because he came in on his horse and said "don't worry lads, here's my satellites, fill yer boots". Then got a big cob on when half the world called him out as a bit of a cunt for saying lets give Putin most of what he wants, and also lets fuck the Taiwanese folks whilst we're at the table.
nogojones
spelling is overrated
I think they're over-estimating your capabilitiesI'm only allowed to drive any vehicle one at a time.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh after what happened last time you tried to drive more than one even you'll admit that's sensibleI'm only allowed to drive any vehicle one at a time.
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