The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The latest round of sanctions by the EU limits exports of tear gas and electric shockers to Russian law enforcement agencies. I wonder who has been supplying these since the war started?
Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
I can't imagine that those who make this stuff have many moral qualms about circumnavigating or breaking the law.
I think that was beside Tim's point. They have no 'moral qualms' about their products, even if they recognize the legal peril of going against new sanctions.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Whereas other arms manufactures/dealers or countries that supply materials for weapons do have qualms ?
What? Who said anything like that? How on earth did you get from what was said to thinking that was said or implied?
I think that was his point. That these people are bastards in general. The kind without 'moral qualms' about the nature of their products.
Of course business is about profit, which has a strong relationship to reputation and regulation. I don't think anyone was under the impression, before you explained it all, that these manufacturers and suppliers were non profit organisations.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
When I went into industry I had a few rules, one was that I wasn't going to work for any company that could list kill or maim ratios on the datasheets for their products.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
That is a brilliant map
Yes, well, that seems reasonable.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Not that keen on maps of loads of people getting killed and brutalised being labelled with "OMG" and "LOL" myself really.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I think his point was that if they’re prepared to sell weapons to Russia, they’d be prepared to break laws that prohibit them from doing so. My read of it anyway.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
one big reason for not selling to them atm is the very real risk of not getting paid, or paid in something worthless
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Yeah,. You’d want a pretty chunky deposit up-front, wouldn’t you
strung out
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At least 23 Ukrainian civilians murdered by scum Russian forces while trying to flee the occupied territories before annexation.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
According to ISW ...
ISW's September 29 maps do not depict the reported encirclement of Lyman because the first Russian reports of the Ukrainian encirclement of Lyman broke after the 3:00 pm EST daily map cutoff. The ISW maps of September 30 will include all verified and updated information about the reported encirclement of Lyman.
Also as expected, those sham referenda results have resulted in annexations ...
ISW's September 29 maps do not depict the reported encirclement of Lyman because the first Russian reports of the Ukrainian encirclement of Lyman broke after the 3:00 pm EST daily map cutoff. The ISW maps of September 30 will include all verified and updated information about the reported encirclement of Lyman.
Also as expected, those sham referenda results have resulted in annexations ...
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Annexations in name only. It'd be interesting to see how they plan to annexe Zaporizhzhia, for example, given that they barely control it right now...
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
Definitely, agreed. The area around Melitopol is a case in point !
Also currently occupy less than 60% of Donetsk ... and that's rapidly reducing !
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I think that this is purely for domestic consumption - Putin will be only too well aware that nobody in the West believes his crazy referenda.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
He should have gone for 52/48 and said just like in the UK the people have spoken
teuchter
je suis teuchter
You already did this joke a few days ago on this thread.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Reusable jokes are more environmentally sound that using a new one every time
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