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Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

Doesn't october see the return of the mud as well? The war is looking more and more like an attritional grind now. At what point does russia cut its losses? When a bullet enters the back of putins head or before then?

Mud is less of an issue if the Russians are mostly just staying put and hammering everything with artillery than if they're trying to get a thousand tanks into Kyiv.

Long term the bigger problems will be supply lines, morale, desertion etc. The Ukrainians (or careless Russians having a crafty fag at a munitions depot) must have put a serious dent in their ammo supplies by now.
 
Mud is less of an issue if the Russians are mostly just staying put and hammering everything with artillery than if they're trying to get a thousand tanks into Kyiv.

Long term the bigger problems will be supply lines, morale, desertion etc. The Ukrainians (or careless Russians having a crafty fag at a munitions depot) must have put a serious dent in their ammo supplies by now.

I'm not a military strategist, but I would have thought that if mud is an issue for tank advances, it will also be one for re-supplying even stationary artillery positions with ammo, food etc.
 
I'm not a military strategist, but I would have thought that if mud is an issue for tank advances, it will also be one for re-supplying even stationary artillery positions with ammo, food etc.


Yes. Which makes it an issue for both Ukrainian and Russian forces to attack.
 
I'd imagine that, come rasputitsa time, Ukraine will be all about defence.

Maybe but at some point they need to destroy Russian forces - they’ve been mostly defending and hitting logistics since the start. It’ll be a judgement call as to when the Russians logistics are in the toilet enough to start cutting them off and advancing. Or even if they are going to.
 
Long term the bigger problems will be supply lines, morale, desertion etc. The Ukrainians (or careless Russians having a crafty fag at a munitions depot) must have put a serious dent in their ammo supplies by now.
I don't think it has really apparently they have shitloads of ammo. The point of blowing up the ammo dumps is it stops them from being able to resupply until they ship more ammo out.
 
It seems to be working to the UA's advantage that they're mainly on their reserves. The joiners, engineers, and electricians must bring a different way of looking at problems.
Prime example #1:

There does seem to be a lot of that going on in Ukraine.

Which raises some interesting thoughts. In cultures (particularly, I suppose, military cultures) where there is scope for innovation, this kind of thing is more likely to happen. Perhaps partly because working in such environments will be more appealing (or less unappealing, anyway) to the kind of lateral thinking problem solving mentality that comes up with stuff like this, but perhaps also because in the opposite culture - and Russian military culture would appear, rigid and orders-based, to be antithetical - anyone coming up with "You know what, why don't we...?" is likely to be silenced very rapidly.

But also, perhaps, because in Ukraine's situation, these unconventional solutions to problems become more significant: if you haven't got 1,000 guns and unlimited ammunition, but your opponents do, there's a lot more incentive to get creative, assuming you've a) got people in your military capable of coming up with such ideas, and b) a command hierarchy that is at least sympathetic to taking on such ideas (or happy to turn a blind eye).
 
It would seem there may be a possibility that the U.S. could give Ukraine A!0 Warthogs and with this in mind an officer in the Ukrainian army has developed a flight simulator for them:


They aren't using the Su-25s they already have so what exactly are they going to do with A-10s that they can't do today with the Frogfoots?
 
He's stoking up the nationalism by giving a medal to women who have 10 kids https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/08/17/russia-ukraine-putin-mother-heroine-award-children/
You only have to have brought up four kids to get one in France and because France is progressive it can be given to male parents and caregivers such as partners in same sex marriages and Roman Catholic Priests.

One early male beneficiary of the award was a Catholic priest, Père Mayotte, who was curate at Randan, Puyde-Dôme.

You can't get it if you don't bring the kids up in the state-sanctioned manner, so that probably excludes Jews and Muslims whose commitment to Republican Values might be questionable.

France honours parents who raise large families
 
It would seem there may be a possibility that the U.S. could give Ukraine A!0 Warthogs and with this in mind an officer in the Ukrainian army has developed a flight simulator for them:


A10s eh? Starting to believe that theory that they're intentionally limiting UA's combat effectiveness...
 
It would seem there may be a possibility that the U.S. could give Ukraine A!0 Warthogs and with this in mind an officer in the Ukrainian army has developed a flight simulator for them:

I've heard the Americans have wanted rid of their A10's for at least a decade, but sentimentality seems to have kept them in service. This would be a good way of getting shot of them.

The only problem might be that they're slow and vulnerable to air defences. Fine if you're shooting up Afghan shepherds and wedding parties, but a bit risky if you're up against a more modern army who have operational fighter jets and SAMs.
 
There does seem to be a lot of that going on in Ukraine.

Which raises some interesting thoughts. In cultures (particularly, I suppose, military cultures) where there is scope for innovation, this kind of thing is more likely to happen. Perhaps partly because working in such environments will be more appealing (or less unappealing, anyway) to the kind of lateral thinking problem solving mentality that comes up with stuff like this, but perhaps also because in the opposite culture - and Russian military culture would appear, rigid and orders-based, to be antithetical - anyone coming up with "You know what, why don't we...?" is likely to be silenced very rapidly.

But also, perhaps, because in Ukraine's situation, these unconventional solutions to problems become more significant: if you haven't got 1,000 guns and unlimited ammunition, but your opponents do, there's a lot more incentive to get creative, assuming you've a) got people in your military capable of coming up with such ideas, and b) a command hierarchy that is at least sympathetic to taking on such ideas (or happy to turn a blind eye).

That is true, though use of things like this has been going on for years - IIRC the Bulgarians buried a load of WW2-vintage tanks as part of their border defences against Turkiye, leaving only the turret above ground. Loads of them were subsequently dug back up and are now in museums.
 
That is true, though use of things like this has been going on for years - IIRC the Bulgarians buried a load of WW2-vintage tanks as part of their border defences against Turkiye, leaving only the turret above ground. Loads of them were subsequently dug back up and are now in museums.

The Germans were fond of the tank turret "Tobruk" bunker as well. They were manned though.

Necessity etc.

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Russian ambassador in Vienna last night. A swift backtrack after a LOT of responses.
BTW his English seems perfect and he is supposed to be a diplomat:

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