Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[agricola]

Already been disproven. The Russians claimed it was a HIMARS rocket attack, and showed missile fragments to 'prove' it, but the evidence from the scene shows it was some kind of thermobaric weapon. Guess who uses those.

the Ukrainian Army has captured several of those launchers

 

[existentialist]

the Ukrainian Army has captured some, don't forget

I think they already had some before the invasion. It doesn't mean that they're necessarily bombing their own POWs with them.

 

[strung out]

the Ukrainian Army has captured several of those launchers

And fired them at a famous prison where they knew their troops were being held?

 

[IC3D]

The level of media manipulation, censorship and internet trolling is fucking insane. This has been and remains a proxy war since 2014 and is getting worse daily. Negotiation for peace needs to happen as soon as possible but neither side are interested now, perhaps that will change when Russia take the Dombas so here's an inspiring picture in the mean time.

 

[existentialist]

The level of media manipulation, censorship and internet trolling is fucking insane.

Well, you'd bloody know!

Honestly, if I didn't think you were a prick already, this performative pearl-clutching - about 5 days too late - would confirm it.

 

[Pickman's model]

Already been disproven. The Russians claimed it was a HIMARS rocket attack, and showed missile fragments to 'prove' it, but the evidence from the scene shows it was some kind of thermobaric weapon. Guess who uses those.

Apart from the Americans?

 

[IC3D]

Anything in the post you want to reply too sunshine existentialist ?

 

[Pickman's model]

Anything in the post you want to reply to sunshine?

I thought I had replied to something in the post

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The level of media manipulation, censorship and internet trolling is fucking insane. This has been and remains a proxy war since 2014 and is getting worse daily. Negotiation for peace needs to happen as soon as possible but neither side are interested now, perhaps that will change when Russia take the Dombas so here's an inspiring picture in the mean time.
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It's a good job you ain't in charge of a country being attacked by a massive fascist state, you'd have been killed when Putin sent in his assassins back in March. Zelensky knows exactly what he is doing with the media, it's one of Ukraine's strongest cards you dicksplash.

 

[IC3D]

I thought I had replied to something in the post

Then what happend?

 

[Pickman's model]

Then what happend?

You went all weird

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

There was me thinking proxy wars were fought between 'client states' of the superpowers. If we accept your completely flawed argument IC3D that Ukraine is a client state of NATO, who is Russia a client state of? China? The Illuminati?

 

[IC3D]

You went all weird

Sorry Pickman's.
The Sense we are barreling along into a catastrophe and the zeal of some posters wants checking.

 

[IC3D]

There was me thinking proxy wars were fought between 'client states' of the superpowers. If we accept your completely flawed argument IC3D that Ukraine is a client state of NATO, who is Russia a client state of? China? The Illuminati?

It was a state run by gangsters sat between conflicting superpowers, now I'd say you could argue it is a client state of NATO very much so.

 

[Pickman's model]

There was me thinking proxy wars were fought between 'client states' of the superpowers. If we accept your completely flawed argument IC3D that Ukraine is a client state of NATO, who is Russia a client state of? China? The Illuminati?

Yeh well you've misunderstood proxy wars. Afghanistan, the Americans using the mujihadeen as proxies v the ussr. For example.

 

[xenon]

I thought Putin was going to have a show trial of these fascists to justify the invasion. Guess that changed if it ever was on the cards.
Perhaps the Ukrainians did this as they are trying to improve their image these days and having a bunch of guys with swastika tattoos paraded on Russian TV is bad PR?

Cunt off you clown.

 

[Yossarian]

It's a good job you ain't in charge of a country being attacked by a massive fascist state, you'd have been killed when Putin sent in his assassins back in March. Zelensky knows exactly what he is doing with the media, it's one of Ukraine's strongest cards you dicksplash.

The only magazine IC3D wants to see Zelensky on the cover of is Lubyanka Monthly.

 

[xenon]

.You're all over the shop aren't you? A few posts ago barely half an hour earlier you had a totally different take on it. What have you read since that's changed your mind? Or is your mind so fucking empty and useless it flits randomly about with no consistency apart from your fucking pickled brain making your mouth spout one idiotic position after another.

Dichead think's he's seen something we're not understanding because he lerks on Telegram or sommat. Special insight blah, blah, Same with the vacccine stuff. I used to watch LiveLeak I know all about counter insergency tactics now.

 

[Pickman's model]

Dichead think's he's seen something we're not understanding because he lerks on Telegram or sommat. Special insight blah, blah, Same with the vacccine stuff. I used to watch LiveLeak I know all about counter insergency tactics now.

Thought we'd all read kilcullen by now

 

[DaveCinzano]

The only magazine IC3D wants to see Zelensky on the cover of is Lubyanka Monthly.

You should see the page 3 stungunna in the latest issue - absolutely a-tazing

 

[IC3D]

Is your issue me calling the overtly fascist regiment fascists? They were killed/murdered by Russians as I said in the first paragraph. There would be a motive for Zelenski to want rid of them too but that didn't happen xenon

 

[existentialist]

Anything in the post you want to reply too sunshine existentialist ?

No. It's all regurgitated bullshit, and not worthy of a response.

 

[existentialist]

Sorry Pickman's.
The Sense we are barreling along into a catastrophe and the zeal of some posters wants checking.

Yours, for a fucking start.

 

[IC3D]

Yours, for a fucking start.

What zeal exactly when I am expressing consern over the deluge of propaganda we in Europe are getting and desiring peaceful solution that will become ever distant if our leaders become more trapped in their rhetoric.

 

[xenon]

Is your issue me calling the overtly fascist regiment fascists? They were killed/murdered by Russians as I said in the first paragraph. There would be a motive for Zelenski to want rid of them too but that didn't happen xenon

No. That's not my issue. Here's a few hints.
A. How do you know those murdered were fascists.
B. Have you not read anything about Azov since 20221?
C. Do you think murdering PoWs is just one of those things, shrugg?
D. Who's telling you they were Azov / fascists anyway?
E. Have you seen the discussion on twitter about why this wasn't a GRML rocket attack? Subjective sure, but worthy of consideration.

 

[existentialist]

What zeal exactly when I am expressing consern over the deluge of propaganda we in Europe are getting and desiring peaceful solution that will become ever distant if our leaders become more trapped in their rhetoric.

"Concern", eh?

 

[JimW]

Is your issue me calling the overtly fascist regiment fascists? They were killed/murdered by Russians as I said in the first paragraph. There would be a motive for Zelenski to want rid of them too but that didn't happen xenon

Nothing says overt fascism in Eastern Europe like a Jewish president. Get your story somewhat straight. Crypto maybe?

 

[strung out]

Zelensky being Jewish, of course he wanted to murder the Nazis. It's all starting to make sense now.

 

[IC3D]

No. That's not my issue. Here's a few hints.
A. How do you know those murdered were fascists.
B. Have you not read anything about Azov since 20221?
C. Do you think murdering PoWs is just one of those things, shrugg?
D. Who's telling you they were Azov / fascists anyway?
E. Have you seen the discussion on twitter about why this wasn't a GRML rocket attack? Subjective sure, but worthy of consideration.

If they were Azov they certainly are unless they've had a change of heart since 2021.
Of course I don't condone murdering Pows even fascist ones and never even remotely suggested otherwise.
It's clear it was the Russians that did it, possibly to cover up war crimes committed there.

 

[xenon]

If they were Azov they certainly are unless they've had a change of heart since 2021.
Of course I don't condone murdering Pows even fascist ones and never even remotely suggested otherwise.
It's clear it was the Russians that did it, possibly to cover up war crimes committed there.

IC3D said:
I thought Putin was going to have a show trial of these fascists to justify the invasion. Guess that changed if it ever was on the cards.
Perhaps the Ukrainians did this as they are trying to improve their image these days and having a bunch of guys with swastika tattoos paraded on Russian TV is bad PR?