all those and The Damneds captain sensible Glad its all over O.M.D Enloa Gay there were lots more
It'd be a way of testing their missile defence systems, though...
Yep the list is long and the 1980s made it so much longer.
From champion of whiff-whaff to plummeting bag of chaff in just 14 years
There's a theory that that the 2 man tank crews are the result of corruption. The officers pretend that the tank has a crew of 3 and pocket the salary of the 'ghost' soldier. Apparently a common problem in many armies, and well known in the Russian army when it was in Afghanistan. During peacetime it's easy to get away with it, but when a war starts the corrupt officers either have to admit their crime or send undermanned T-72s into battle. Allegedly you can spot them because the turret doesn't rotate much, because the missing man's job is to scan for enemies to the sides. The tank becomes much easier to attack.
Do you have anything to support this maybe consisting of evidence from the last 20 years? Or is it another clapson fact?There's a theory that that the 2 man tank crews are the result of corruption. The officers pretend that the tank has a crew of 3 and pocket the salary of the 'ghost' soldier. Apparently a common problem in many armies, and well known in the Russian army when it was in Afghanistan. During peacetime it's easy to get away with it, but when a war starts the corrupt officers either have to admit their crime or send undermanned T-72s into battle. Allegedly you can spot them because the turret doesn't rotate much, because the missing man's job is to scan for enemies to the sides. The tank becomes much easier to attack.
Ghost soldiers - Wikipedia
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I meant done by the Russians in the last 20 years.
We kept none attenders on our books for years. Either in a vague hope they would come back or use their days for someone who was training. So they also serve who don't actually turn up.
I wonder if there's a russian version of rentaghost
Yeh I meant Russians doing it
The twitter thread about it was mentioned upthread, cockbreath.
Yeh. You mentioned a rumour. Have you anything to indicate it's more than a rumour?
It would seem that their aim is unerring when it comes to targeting their own insteps.
www.maritime-executive.com
I'll take that as a no thenThere've also been many accounts of corruption in the Black Sea fleet over the years. Ten to one that corruption contributed to Moskva's demise. Ghost sailors on missile defence, or poor protection of ammunition because somebody trousered the refit budget...could be 100 different things. Corruption was a factor in the loss of the Kursk submarine in 2000. Sounds like Putin hasn't been able to overcome it.
Russia's naval illusions die with its sons
Russia's seafaring tradition is woven into the very fabric of Murmansk, the biggest city in the world north of the Arctic circle. Among its 400,000 people there is barely a family without ties to the fishing fleet, the merchant marine or the Russian navy.www.theguardian.com
Crimea and the Black Sea Fleet in Russian- Ukrainian Relations
www.belfercenter.org
Russia's Black Sea Fleet Buildup
A Neglected Black Sea FleetSince the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, Russia?s naval fleets have been severely
Your 1995 and 2000 links don't for obvious reasons speak to the last 22 years while I don't think you've read the 2017 documentThere've also been many accounts of corruption in the Black Sea fleet over the years. Ten to one that corruption contributed to Moskva's demise. Ghost sailors on missile defence, or poor protection of ammunition because somebody trousered the refit budget...could be 100 different things. Corruption was a factor in the loss of the Kursk submarine in 2000. Sounds like Putin hasn't been able to overcome it.
Russia's naval illusions die with its sons
Russia's seafaring tradition is woven into the very fabric of Murmansk, the biggest city in the world north of the Arctic circle. Among its 400,000 people there is barely a family without ties to the fishing fleet, the merchant marine or the Russian navy.Crimea and the Black Sea Fleet in Russian- Ukrainian Relations
Russia's Black Sea Fleet Buildup
A Neglected Black Sea FleetSince the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, Russia?s naval fleets have been severely
There's an interesting Twitter thread (CBA to find it right now) which talks about cost-cutting and delays on...fire alarm systems on that class of ship. ErkThere've also been many accounts of corruption in the Black Sea fleet over the years. Ten to one that corruption contributed to Moskva's demise. Ghost sailors on missile defence, or poor protection of ammunition because somebody trousered the refit budget...could be 100 different things. Corruption was a factor in the loss of the Kursk submarine in 2000. Sounds like Putin hasn't been able to overcome it.
Russia's naval illusions die with its sons
Russia's seafaring tradition is woven into the very fabric of Murmansk, the biggest city in the world north of the Arctic circle. Among its 400,000 people there is barely a family without ties to the fishing fleet, the merchant marine or the Russian navy.Crimea and the Black Sea Fleet in Russian- Ukrainian Relations
Russia's Black Sea Fleet Buildup
A Neglected Black Sea FleetSince the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, Russia?s naval fleets have been severely
Why would you trust any Russian evidence? Do you think it likely that the Russians would admit this? Do you think that corruption in other parts of the world is unlikely to happen within the Russian military?
Maybe one of these?There's an interesting Twitter thread (CBA to find it right now) which talks about cost-cutting and delays on...fire alarm systems on that class of ship. Erk
Don't waste your time, it has no interest in information-sharing. It lives for point-scoring. Look at its post count! Best ignore it, as I nearly always do.
I have no reason to believe any old rumour floated here by someone who is as invested as clapson is. Rather than doubling down as he has, might simply have said what you have. He has extrapolated from evidence more than 20 years auld to draw conclusions I don't think the sources will bear on how things are now.
Yeh it wasn't me who posted this Ukraine 2022: List of resources and authentic sources of info or this Ukraine 2022: List of resources and authentic sources of info.
