Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
OK, I'll confess, it was me & my mate, Alan, we claim responsibility.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Very interesting interview with Russian sociologist Greg Yudin, from the German paper Analyse und Kritik. When I first tried reading this in the original german (link is to an English version) I did wonder if this guy was Russia's answer to Mad Paul Mason. Well, he isn't that, he's just very pessimistic. He thinks VP's going to attack Poland next (good luck with that - give the Poles an opportunity to avenge Katyn? Are you sure about this, Vladimir?).
www.akweb.de
His characterisation of the VP regime as being a formerly authoritarian system that is transitioning to a totalitarian system is plausible and persuasive. However. . . I'm not sure if it's consistent with his other view that Putin has assiduously tried to make the population atomised and cynical. This doesn't fit with totalitarianism's need for fully mobilised societies. It is going to make things interesting, when the sky over Russia turns black with chickens coming home to roost, mind.
»A fascist regime looms in Russia«
Moscow sociologist Greg Yudin on Putin’s unleashed power apparatus and the political motives behind the attack on Ukraine
www.akweb.de
His characterisation of the VP regime as being a formerly authoritarian system that is transitioning to a totalitarian system is plausible and persuasive. However. . . I'm not sure if it's consistent with his other view that Putin has assiduously tried to make the population atomised and cynical. This doesn't fit with totalitarianism's need for fully mobilised societies. It is going to make things interesting, when the sky over Russia turns black with chickens coming home to roost, mind.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Or perhaps
And were you shouting about it over the radio as you started your run in?
Does your mate run a snack bar?
And were you shouting about it over the radio as you started your run in?
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
I fucking knew it was a crap ops mission. You were looking for the Oli factory weren't you?
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I think those 2 things are maybe actually complimentary. First destroy social cohesion and solidarity, have everyone atomised and cynical and then mobilize them around a militaristic and nationalist mission? I'm not sure it's that programmatic, but I think it works.
Either way that's a very depressing and slightly terrifying article.
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
Like a Roddy Doyle version of The Van but using a Snack Helicopter
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Here's the actual Reuters report:
www.reuters.com
Ukraine denies attacking fuel depot inside Russia, mayor says fire almost out
Russia accused Ukraine of carrying out an air strike against a fuel depot in the Russian city of Belgorod on Friday, an incident the Kremlin said could affect peace talks, but a top Kyiv security official denied responsibility.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
I think it's Ukraine but it occurs to me by claiming it isn't, they're trying to sow doubt in the minds of an already demoralised enemy. Not many people will doubt it is them but in the that dark corner of the mind where no-one likes to go there may be a few already paranoid and unsettled Russian officers starting to think that their own government is carrying out operations that they don't know about. Or perhaps are their own troops starting to turn on them?
Raheem
Well-Known Member
It could also plausibly be that a Russian helicopter completely fucked up.
Bingoman
Well-Known Member
The plot thickens?What if that's actually true?
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Oh please let that be true. That or Russian deserting and firing a few rockets off before doing so.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
I doubt it. Tom Toms are pretty decent sat nav.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Usual caveats apply re. SM bubble, propaganda etc. but there is a shit load of video coming up on Twitter now that shows enormous amounts of Russian losses North, West, East of Kyiv, and some horrible potential war crimes.
I know a lot of you see this as well but I don't know who does and who doesn't so passing it on.
I know a lot of you see this as well but I don't know who does and who doesn't so passing it on.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Cid
Proper break this time
There is moderately active discussion over on the speculation thread, so might be worth bringing up on there. Probably shouldn't be on here though (I mean not to be thread police, perfectly valid pointing it out, but think that one's better for going into the weeds).
maomao
普費斯
Any pointers for how to find on Twitter for those of us who aren't very twitterate?
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Thatcherism, this is pretty much its MO in a less extreme way too.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
It is also possible that a lot/all of their Western military aid may be supplied for use in the defensive context, only . And that their supporters may not be entirely comfortable with UKR taking an offensive initiative with these toys.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Destroying a fuel depot is a defensive act.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
There's a load of accounts that have popped up along the way after a recommendation from kebabking for https://twitter.com/RALee85
Yes, overall clearly Ukraine biased but there just isn't the Russian equivalents that I have seen. Some of the accounts do post Russian videos, most of them are pretty respectful with the dead.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
I absolutely do not disagree but I could see how NATO or EU countries could get a bit concerned if its their weapons being carried on to Russian territory
So maybe it is wiser for UKR to simply keep stumm?
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