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STOP THE SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATIONS! simples
Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
- Thread starter kebabking
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LDC
On est tous des pangolins
That's not stopping the rest of us!
Yeah, that is something that complicates the situation and the accepted norms of State behaviour. All the promises to the international 'community' about not going into/invade various countries, followed shortly afterwards by doing exactly that.
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
So we're not constantly being fed both messsages?
bimble
floofy
that is now banned, officially. One good thing to come out of all this.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Enough of this. You are a grown adult and can handle differing views.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
I said earlier that Ukraine lost the moment the war started as when you are fighting in your territory you lose, as it is your cities being destroyed, your people being killed. And don't think anyone really doubts that Russia can win a military victory given time. Although I don't think the Russia military campaign is going well for them. My guess would be that things are progressing along the lines of their worst projections but still within them. So not as well as they hopped, but within the boundaries of what they considered possible.
What I think is in question is how much time Russia has. I don't think they expected the extent of the political and economic fallout. They are clearly losing politicaly and economicly, the question is can Ukraine hold out long enough that the Russia economy tanks so bad they have to withdraw? I don't think they will, but I also Don't think any Russia occupation of Ukraine will be able to last very long.
Of course all of this is my badly informed speculations and almost certainly wrong.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Not really. I haven't really heard the latter since the war started.
If you're making a point about media messaging, fine but your post history on this thread has been snide and attention seeking, which is why I responded the way I did. I'm pretty sure you mentioned how entertained you were by your goading of other posters. I'd much rather you didn't do that and just stuck to talking about the topic. This isn't really the thread for one attention seeker.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
No problem with different views just not a fan of snide attention seeking like he's been doing all thread.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Get a grip.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Fuck off
TopCat
Putin fanboy
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TopCat
Putin fanboy
Yeah so you can swear, at RD, at me, swear at the ruskies. It may make you feel better. Did you do the fuck off gromit thing, or the tobyjug one?
Numbers
an ting!
Don't forget Dwyer.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
FFS
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
It does and no I didn't. Anyway, not carrying this on.
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
Scepticism about the whole thing equals attention seeking?
Others, who unlike me, keep directly referencing themselves with regard to what's going on are not attention seeking, perhaps because they're on the side of good in its battle with evil?
(My comment on entertaining myself with the reactions of others was in reference to a different thread entirely, a point also apparently missed by Mr Editor. And as if there are not many posters who sometimes tske this approach throughout the boards,)
The lesson: learn to cope with differing views and don't constantly de-rail with rants about the dastardliness of those expressing them. Learn to take sarcastic comment. Don't think that the latter warrants wasting time by frequently chasing the offender down to let him know what a clear bastard he is (after all, he probably already knows.)
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bimble
floofy
yep thats what i think too, apart from is there any real reason to think that Putin would order withdrawal because of his concern for the suffering of ordinary Russians?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
nogojones
spelling is overrated
So their use by the Americans in the Vietnam war and the two battles of Fallujah, plus their use by the Brits in Afghanistan, flown in by our own hero Prince Harry was all fine and dandy and non-binary.
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Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
Imports/exports in and out of Belarus stopped too.
Still won't forget this though - Belarusians around the world protest overIKEA's involvement in trade with Lukashenko regime
He hasn’t invaded a NATO country yet, though.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
His only concern for ordinary Russians is that if theu suffer enough they might decide his time has come.
Now I don't think anything dramatic is likely to happen, not at the moment anyway. But maybe some of his allies could decide it is time for him to retire.
bimble
floofy
no. And i do agree with you it's just everything feels very unpredictable.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I don't recall saying, or even implying, that.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
I was in the pub last night too. It must have been a different pub. There was no mention of Trump at all. Just helpless rage and disgust about Putin. Then we got on to talking about other stuff.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you should have stayed longer as the trump guy can't be everywhere all at once and has to work to a strict timetable
nogojones
spelling is overrated
It implied to me that using these weapons on Ukrainians is bad and their use by allied forces is "qualitatively different". Maybe you meant, it's even worse when used by allied forces, but given the press and general public outrage over their use, I assumed you fell into that more binary camp.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
I'm wondering exactly how NATO would react if he attacked one of the "lesser" NATO members.
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