Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[planetgeli]

The lesson of this recent diversion should be that perhaps it is not a good idea to use terms such as "tankie". It does not really further the debate to use them.

That's what a tankie would say...

 

[maomao]

has been used and common usage are two rather different things. i have used knives to open lids of golden syrup tins, but i don't suppose that's the common usage of knives. you made out that the dominant (common) use today was for a) leftists b) unconditionally supporting anti-western actions. it's not plain yours is the common usage, as you declared it to be

That's selective quoting, the full phrase is 'In recent times, the term has been used across the political spectrum and in a geopolitical context' which actually implies more widespread usage (across the political spectrum!) than its previous more specific meaning. It's this kind of pointless needling and refusal to admit that you might be wrong (and you are) that does you no favours.

 

[Pickman's model]

That's selective quoting, the full phrase is 'In recent times, the term has been used across the political spectrum and in a geopolitical context' which actually implies more widespread usage (across the political spectrum!) than its previous more specific meaning. It's this kind of pointless needling and refusal to admit that you might be wrong (and you are) that does you no favours.

all quoting is by definition selective. and what you're saying makes it clearer not that i am wrong in this instance but that rimbaud is, being as he was more restrictive in his definition than that advanced on wikipedia.

 

[maomao]

all quoting is by definition selective. and what you're saying makes it clearer not that i am wrong in this instance but that rimbaud is, being as he was more restrictive in his definition than that advanced on wikipedia.

 

[Pickman's model]

long may you slumber, the thread will be better for it

 

[Chz]

The lesson of this recent diversion should be that perhaps it is not a good idea to use terms such as "tankie". It does not really further the debate to use them.

I'd rather we not use cutesy names and designations at all when we're having any serious discussion threads. see also: "Keith", "Shammer" and really any use of people's first names exclusively (unless they only have the one).

Hurriedly checks to see if he's used "tankie" ever. Ah, only in jest.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'd rather we not use cutesy names and designations at all when we're having any serious discussion threads. see also: "Keith", "Shammer" and really any use of people's first names exclusively (unless they only have the one).

Hurriedly checks to see if he's used "tankie" ever. Ah, only in jest.

since the depths of starmer's depravity have become clearer i have ceased using shammer as it does not capture the man's iniquity

 

[The39thStep]

I'd rather we not use cutesy names and designations at all when we're having any serious discussion threads. see also: "Keith", "Shammer" and really any use of people's first names exclusively (unless they only have the one).

Hurriedly checks to see if he's used "tankie" ever. Ah, only in jest.

My only reservation is that having serious discussions could well exclude a fair number of posters from this thread .

 

[tim]

I'd rather we not use cutesy names and designations at all when we're having any serious discussion threads. see also: "Keith", "Shammer" and really any use of people's first names exclusively (unless they only have the one).

Hurriedly checks to see if he's used "tankie" ever. Ah, only in jest.

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When I first heard the term I assumed it was about an alleged penchant sleeveless pullovers. I only discovered later that it was about the supporting tanks rolling into Prague.

 

[JimW]

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When I first heard the term I assumed it was about an alleged penchant sleeveless pullovers...

Used to get tankie union tops.

 

[PTK]

all quoting is by definition selective. and what you're saying makes it clearer not that i am wrong in this instance but that rimbaud is, being as he was more restrictive in his definition than that advanced on wikipedia.

Come on, man, you are being rather stupid about this. Knock it off.

 

[Pickman's model]

Come on, man, you are being rather stupid about this. Knock it off.

Not as stupid as someone trying to rake it all up again hours after everyone else has stopped

 

[teuchter]

all quoting is by definition selective.

i am wrong in this instance

Agreed on all points.

 

[TopCat]

Putin plays host to 36 world leaders at Brics summit in Russia

West infuriated as UN secretary general accepts invitation to meeting of countries including China, India and Iran

www.theguardian.com

 

[Spymaster]

Putin plays host to 36 world leaders at Brics summit in Russia

West infuriated as UN secretary general accepts invitation to meeting of countries including China, India and Iran

www.theguardian.com

A proper axis of goodness. Bet that's given you a proper stiffy.

Have you bought the T-shirt yet?

 

[tim]

Putin plays host to 36 world leaders at Brics summit in Russia

West infuriated as UN secretary general accepts invitation to meeting of countries including China, India and Iran

www.theguardian.com

Is it a swansong or is Putin a political phoenix rising from the ashes? What do you think?

Maybe, it's just another boring heads of government knees up.

 

[Dogsauce]

Where’s some nice Legionella bacteria when you need it? Let’s hope the guys whose job it is to clean the air conditioning unit out got mobilised to the front six months ago,

 

[TopCat]

Ukraine war briefing: Draft-dodging scandal sees Kyiv’s top prosecutor resign and officials sacked

Andriy Kostin forced out over rash of officials getting disabled status; North Korean soldiers ‘about to arrive in Kursk’. What we know on day 973

www.theguardian.com

 

[Yossarian]

Ukraine war briefing: Draft-dodging scandal sees Kyiv’s top prosecutor resign and officials sacked

Andriy Kostin forced out over rash of officials getting disabled status; North Korean soldiers ‘about to arrive in Kursk’. What we know on day 973

www.theguardian.com

Which of the 12 items in the Guardian's daily roundup of developments are you seeking to draw attention to?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

A proper axis of goodness. Bet that's given you a proper stiffy.

Have you bought the T-shirt yet?

Brics is shaping up to be a club for the world’s misogynists and homophobes.

 

[kebabking]

Brics is shaping up to be a club for the world’s misogynists and homophobes.

That list of countries you'd probably not encourage your children to move to....

 

[Spymaster]

Brics is shaping up to be a club for the world’s misogynists and homophobes.

Proper Cunt's Club, isn't it?

Just needs NK and Iran for a full house.

 

[The39thStep]

Which of the 12 items in the Guardian's daily roundup of developments are you seeking to draw attention to?

I've only got 10 on that roundup. It leads with 2 on corruption in recruitment waivers, one for a suicide at a recruitment centre , two on North Korean troops, one on Guterres meeting BRICs leaders, 2 on Russian advances and attacks, one on the decline of Ukraine population since 2014, and one on the US contributing $20bn as part of a G7 loan.

 

[Yossarian]

I've only got 10 on that roundup. It leads with 2 on corruption in recruitment waivers, one for a suicide at a recruitment centre , two on North Korean troops, one on Guterres meeting BRICs leaders, 2 on Russian advances and attacks, one on the decline of Ukraine population since 2014, and one on the US contributing $20bn as part of a G7 loan.

Not sure why you are delivering a roundup of the roundup

 

[The39thStep]

Not sure why you are delivering a roundup of the roundup

I just wanted to check that I had read the same version of the roundup as the one you said had more items. I didn't want to miss anything.

 

[TopCat]

Personal abuse seems to be the only contributions from some posters on this thread so moaning about linking to news about Ukraine seems more dunce than usual.

 

[editor]

MOD MODE

Note: Posting up links with no other information is against the board rules for what I thought should be rather obvious reasons.

 

[TopCat]

Where’s some nice Legionella bacteria when you need it? Let’s hope the guys whose job it is to clean the air conditioning unit out got mobilised to the front six months ago,

You want the leaders of all those countries dead? Inc this guy?
“Cyril Ramaphosa, the South African president, who has also sought to play the role of mediator in the conflict, praised Moscow as a “valued ally” and friend “who supported us from the very beginning in the fight against apartheid”.

 

[LDC]

You want the leaders of all those countries dead? Inc this guy?
“Cyril Ramaphosa, the South African president, who has also sought to play the role of mediator in the conflict, praised Moscow as a “valued ally” and friend “who supported us from the very beginning in the fight against apartheid”.

I have no idea what your politics are that underlie all your posts on here, but the idea that he's nowadays somehow a person that has anything to do with left wing, libertarian and 'decent' politics is laughable. Unless your politics are so completely confused and incoherent to the point of thinking he's somehow not part of the oppressive and exploiting ruling class?

 

[editor]

I have no idea what your politics are that underlie all your posts on here, but the idea that he's nowadays somehow a person that has anything to do with left wing, libertarian and 'decent' politics is laughable. Unless your politics are so completely confused and incoherent to the point of thinking he's somehow not part of the oppressive and exploiting ruling class?

He's hardly on the side of the people.

Ramaphosa's net worth was estimated at over R6.4 billion ($450 million) as of 2018. He has been criticised for his conduct and involvement in his business interests, including his harsh posture as a Lonmin director towards the Marikana miners' strike in the week ahead of the Marikana massacre.

Cyril Ramaphosa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org