TopCat
Putin fanboy
Negotiations for a ceasefire and take it from there.
Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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TopCat
Putin fanboy
Go on, do that joke again about nato
krtek a houby
Ave, AV comrades
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
How about backing them to liberate their country?
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Don't be ridiculous - how then would Russia, and it's shills in the West, win?
I mean, you've got to be realistic about the desired outcome...
JimW
支那暗杀团
Korean munitions predictably shit but there is a lot of them: Quantity over quality What the Kremlin’s new defense pact with North Korea means for the Russian army fighting in Ukraine — Meduza
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
If the shells are of the quality that the article suggests, they may - long term - do more harm to the Russian front line in terms of supply issues for needing more shells to do the job, more frequent barrel replacements, actual danger to Russian troops, etc. But that's not a lot of help short term to the people they're being fired at, and that's if the quality is what's being said (or worse).
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I see they've opened up a second front in Clacton
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
'rage's army parade on the sea front every day at 6
Given that Russia’s conditions for a ceasefire are, in essence, “give us half the country”, I’d say that describing “negotiate for a ceasefire and take it from there” as being identical to “give half the country to Russia” is actually pretty accurate.
ska invita
back on the other side
how do you do that?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Type messages onto internet boards more than a thousand miles from ukraine's western borders I suppose
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
T & P
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Out of curiosity, what do you think Russia should do to end the war?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
For me and I suspect for TopCat negotiations would have to occur before an armistice and then further negotiations would occur before peace resumes - that's certainly how I'd envisage it and any suggestion of a unilateral Russian withdrawal from current positions seems like pie in the sky thinking
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Give them enough weapons to make a difference. Not just defensive ones.
SpookyFrank
Float like a caterpillar, sting like a tree
Give them half the country for now and let them regroup and come back for the rest later.
SpookyFrank
Float like a caterpillar, sting like a tree
Apart from ending the war? There's really no answer to that is there?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
What weapons have you given them?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
What weapons do you think would make that difference?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
It's all very well shipping Ukraine all this material but it is rather harder to supply them with people to use it
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
That won't be necessary if donors stop fucking about and give it to them quickly enough.
The solution to their dwindling manpower is to kill attacking Russians at a far greater rate. At the moment they have the manpower but not the weaponry.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
You got the big tranche of weapons you were waiting ages for. What difference did they make? Why would more weapons achieve success?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Why is Putin getting weapons from NK if they don't make a difference?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Why do you think that Russia has made the territorial gains that they have?
Supportive posts on urban account for at least half the gains
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