Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh revered now, weird choice of word
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Krotevych from Azov quoted as "...I wrote to the State Bureau of Investigation calling for an investigation into a military general who in my opinion has killed more Ukrainian soldiers than any Russian general. I don't give a s**t if they open an investigation against me, and I don't give a s**t if they put me in jail."
Revered=influence
Yossarian
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Yep, I think Vietnam is exactly where it wants to be - it's had the leaders of the US, China, and Russia visit in the space of about 9 months and they all have their own reasons for keeping it friendly.
I can't see Vietnam turning its back on Russia but neither can I see it doing much to support the country in its war in Ukraine, Vietnam's trade ties with Russia are insignificant compared to its trade with the US, which it is also seeking to keep on side as a balance to China's territorial claims in the South China Sea.
I think looking at Vietnam's relations with the West through the prism of the Vietnam War is a mistake - the war ended 50 years ago and only old people remember it, there's also been a war with China fought in the meantime. The Vietnamese population is relatively youthful so the war is probably even less relevant for people in Vietnam dealing with America today than the Second World War was for people in Britain dealing with Germany in the 1990s.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
The brave boys of urban still refuse to support their comrades.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
I don't think any of us get to claim moral surperiority on that score while writing on a keyboard/phone in Britain. Supportive of the Palestinians I may be but I'm not out there sabotaging IDF tanks.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
To be fair I think most of us would be a liability on any battlefield
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
Good thing too, you really wouldnt want any of this bunch of office boys around you in a tight spot
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Calm down there Rambo.
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
Yeah when I visited Vietnam I got the impression the war was very much seen as ancient history, and only of interest for the tourists. There was a very good museum in Ho Chi Minh City which covered the various US (and other states, South Korea was particularly culpable IIRC) atrocities
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I'll have know that there are posters on here who have ,unarmed, refused to take suitcases of Russian cash.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
I'm sure we could give the enemy a severe enough tongue lashing to make them think twice. Just need a really big megaphone.
Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
John Rambo a pacifist hippie in comparison to the nefandous _Russ_
TopCat
Putin fanboy
I dunno. Footage of overweight blokes in their sixth decade with prosthetic limbs comes to mind.
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
North Korean troops to be posted in occupied Ukraine within a month. Hopefully this will incentivise Ukraine’s supporters to do more to compensate for Russian manpower. But it’s definitely perturbing.
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
No, they’re fighting on the Russian side.
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
Perhaps they’ll set up a NK restaurant in the Russian occupied parts of Ukraine
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
There'll be new metros in the likes of mariupol in months - the north Koreans are famous for their tunnelling
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Be fascinating to have some properly aggregated data and research regarding numbers and origins of foreign fighters in Ukraine , both mercenaries and those enrolled in state armies . The Georgian Legion for example created a lot of coverage and money but they’ve suffered a large number of casualties.
There were some really good in-depth studies of foreign combatants in the 2014 war.
There were some really good in-depth studies of foreign combatants in the 2014 war.
Yossarian
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How one Nepali man - who says he was falsely told he wouldn't be sent to the frontline - escaped from the Russian army
They constantly abused the Nepalis, he said, slapping them in the helmet, jabbing them with gunbutts and screaming at them in Russian. Mr. Shahi said he learned only a few words, including right and left, but sometimes, during the chaos of combat, he got those confused.
After an artillery barrage in December wiped out three of his friends, he decided to make a break for it. His wife, Alisha, back in Kathmandu, spoke to a Nepali living in Moscow who connected Mr. Shahi to traffickers working inside Russia. They put together a plan: He’d pay 4,000 euros, in installments, and the traffickers would arrange for a car to take him from Donetsk to Mariupol, and then to Moscow.
....They were arrested and beaten, he said. Mr. Shahi begged for mercy, saying they were just Nepali students trying to get to Europe. But while they were waiting in a Mariupol jail, the police received an electronic bulletin from the Russian army that they were looking for some Nepali deserters. The game was up.
Russian soldiers hauled them back to a frontline position in Donetsk, this time a bunker filled with snow
They constantly abused the Nepalis, he said, slapping them in the helmet, jabbing them with gunbutts and screaming at them in Russian. Mr. Shahi said he learned only a few words, including right and left, but sometimes, during the chaos of combat, he got those confused.
After an artillery barrage in December wiped out three of his friends, he decided to make a break for it. His wife, Alisha, back in Kathmandu, spoke to a Nepali living in Moscow who connected Mr. Shahi to traffickers working inside Russia. They put together a plan: He’d pay 4,000 euros, in installments, and the traffickers would arrange for a car to take him from Donetsk to Mariupol, and then to Moscow.
....They were arrested and beaten, he said. Mr. Shahi begged for mercy, saying they were just Nepali students trying to get to Europe. But while they were waiting in a Mariupol jail, the police received an electronic bulletin from the Russian army that they were looking for some Nepali deserters. The game was up.
Russian soldiers hauled them back to a frontline position in Donetsk, this time a bunker filled with snow
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
It's wild how Zelensky will sack a general just because some Right Sektor hooligan tells him to on Telegram.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Report on men attempting to flee Ukraine to avoid conscription.
www.theguardian.com
‘I am not made for war’: the men fleeing Ukraine to evade conscription
As a new recruitment drive looms, some are turning to online handlers and forgers to escape the horror of war
JimW
支那暗杀团
Russian incremental advances across a broad front stretching undermanned Ukrainians:
apnews.com
Russia presses its offensive in Ukraine and issues new threats as the West tries to blunt the push
Slowly but steadily this summer, Russian troops are forging through Ukraine’s outgunned and undermanned defenses along the front line of the battlefield in a relentless onslaught, prompting the West to push for new weapons and strategies to shore up Kyiv.
apnews.com
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