Raheem
Well-Known Member
Then they would control Ukraine and we move on to the next chapter, in which Russia is dominates the globe due to its mighty army. It's unlikely, though.
Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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discokermit
Well-Known Member
nobody will send troops. because they will just be more meat for the grinder.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
You are after all doubting teuchter
andysays
Love and solidarity
The West aka NATO will certainly be happy to fight to the last Ukrainian.
What happens after that I'm not so sure.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
Has she defected from the BBC?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Apparently we move on to the last moldovan
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
hmm who is on this thread asking for the break up of Russia
oh wait i forgot some people think Ukraine is part of Russia
I'd like to see the Chechens free to decide their own future and given the right to see those suspected of being responsible for the bombing of Grozny and other war crimes put on trial.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I'd love to hear some of them, Kerm.
Russia has been fought pretty much to a standstill by Ukraine alone, albeit with significant military assistance from elsewhere. The main reason they've made recent gains is because the will to fund/arm UKR was questioned and delayed. That's now changed, at least for the moment. Russia has demonstrated very clearly that they are in no way whatsoever a superpower in terms of conventional warfare. They’re actually rather poorly led and equipped and would likely be no match for France or Poland, let alone a combined NATO force that included Germany, UK, USA, et al.
Set-out the scenario where you believe 'Russia beats The West'.
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Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
This is just nonsense. They're already there. The countries in the region are currently packed with more NATO troops and kit than ever before.
ska invita
back on the other side
Ukraine has six months left, former British army officer warns
08:42 , Alexander ButlerWestern aid will not allow Ukraine to seize the initiative and go back onto the offensive against Russia, a former British army officer warned.
Richard Kemp, who served from 1977 to 2006, said US and UK munitions would let Kyiv stabilise the front line but would not allow them to take back land seized by Moscow.
He warned if Moscow was able to achieve “significant success” by summer, there would be no more appetite for Western spending on Ukraine by the winter.
“While the new aid packages might allow that to be blunted, they will not enable Ukraine to seize the initiative and go back onto the offensive,” Mr Kemp wrote in the Daily Telegraph
editor
hiraethified
On a slightly related note, a massive new railway project will integrate the Baltic states into the European rail network, with a continuous rail link from Tallinn (Estonia) to Warsaw (Poland).
It looks to replace Russian gauge railways which head east with super-fast standard gauge lines running north-south and cementing links with Europe.
en.wikipedia.org
See video here Europe's $8BN project to build huge new high-speed rail line across three former Soviet states
It looks to replace Russian gauge railways which head east with super-fast standard gauge lines running north-south and cementing links with Europe.
Rail Baltica - Wikipedia
See video here Europe's $8BN project to build huge new high-speed rail line across three former Soviet states
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
There’s no shortage of ex-military types willing to say something edgy for the papers for a bit of cash, so that the papers can gain a few clicks. It’s the Telegraph ffs.
Yossarian
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ska invita
back on the other side
Including the head of the Ukraine army and head of US army, clickbait merchants yeah
The reality is clear and long has been, it's only been war fever and propaganda that has painted any other picture
if you want to airbrush them all aside and keep living in the Ukraine is winning fantasy crack on
On one level it's irrelevant what you or I perceive, but where it truly becomes important is in the fact that as a public instead of resisting escalation and the new arms race this narrative just takes us ever nearer to all out war.
Its never too late for peace
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
You must recognise this model of media income generation though? There’s no shortage of military experts (from both sides of the argument) willing to provide clickbaity headlines for whoever pays them. Plenty that had Ukraine finished in three days, or that Russia wouldn’t invade, or that Russia is out of ammo, or that a few western tanks would turn the tide. I just wouldn’t put much faith in any of this type of reporting, someone’s distant military past doesn’t make them authoritative, there’s plenty of evidence that they haven’t been over the last few years.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Cid
Proper break this time
Ah, Richard Kemp, leading voice against a ceasefire in Gaza, who wrote an article (2021) describing the BBC as 'leading the world against Israel', but is currently doing sterling work as a talking head for them. Or was. There was some minor controversy since he also raises money for the IDF. The JC asks 'Is this man the IDF’s best British friend?'
Credible.
Credible.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
discokermit
Well-Known Member
russia is not at a standstill, it is gaining ground at an accelerating pace. russia now has a bigger army than before and now they are battle hardened. poorly led i will file with running out of missiles.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
The ones who aren't dead, maimed or suffering from shell shock might battle hardened, whatever that stupid cliché means.
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hiraethified
By Christ, he's a fucking idiot.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Raheem
Well-Known Member
The decision on beards I think gives away the UK government's true intentions. History has shown that if you want to force Russia out of Crimea you need some decent fuzz.
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