Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[Ax^]

sad pair of cunts seeming as i've already answer it a few posts up

22 billion. Hohoho. Roubles? Turkish lira?

seeming as it a Russia bridge let say the second option but add another digit 229 billion

already answered

 

[Pickman's model]

sad pair of cunts seeming as i've already answer it a few posts up





already answered

You've already answered it but your answers aren't the same. You ought to wind your neck in, too - do you think calling people cunts is proportionate to the offence of pointing out your error?

 

[Ax^]

229 billion roubles and that was before russia started the second invasion of ukraine

so a little bit more than todays conversion rate

 

[The39thStep]

oh the joy of people who look for low hanging fruit when i've already told top cat it was 229 billion roubles

do you want me to google that for you or can you do the math yourself Steps?

Ok, re-reading I can just about follow your posts . The second option was lira btw and then your other answer had a different figure. Also if you want want to make it clear that you are replying to me just put The39thStep . Grateful to TopCat and you for helping to clarify

 

[Pickman's model]

229 billion roubles and that was before russia started the second invasion of ukraine

so a little bit more than todays conversion rate

Could you source your claim pls - the moscow times in 2022 reported it cost 300bn roubles The Symbolism of Russia’s Bridge to Crimea - The Moscow Times

 

[Ax^]

how about a russian estimate

Cost of construction of bridge to Crimea estimated at $8 billion

tass.com

 

[Pickman's model]

how about a russian estimate

I'm not seeing 229bn there. Could you point it out pls. But I do see 2014. Have you an estimate that's less than 10 years auld?

 

[Ax^]

I'm not seeing 229bn there. Could you point it out pls

do you have the bridge building cost in front of you pickmans because we can argue over reported details from websites all day

and it appears the idea of 330 bm roubles being 4.8 billion usd is a little high in the todays light?

also a paper outside of russian since 2017

hands on the pulse fella

 

[Pickman's model]

do you have the bridge building cost in front of you pickmans because we can argue over reported details from websites all day

and it appears the idea of 330 bm roubles being 4.8 billion usd is a little high in the todays light?

also a paper outside of russian since 2017

hands on the pulse fella

I've asked you to support your claim, and I'm not seeing any such source produced by you. So if you don't have anything to back it up then it's time for you to stfu

 

[Ax^]

i now gone from one fella trying to arguing it down
to pickmans trying to get me to argue it up and get me to provide evidence from random website on the interwebz
when the Russia state has never submitted to a public request for access for the construction records



how fun

last answer 30 magic beans fella

 

[Ax^]

Ok, re-reading I can just about follow your posts . The second option was lira btw and then your other answer had a different figure. Also if you want want to make it clear that you are replying to me just put The39thStep . Grateful to TopCat and you for helping to clarify

for the people who do all the mental gymnastics that Ukraine's should just give into Russia fornth greater good

it very surprising that when quoted and answer a question I cannot reply straight way on the normal flow of the thread i.e the very next post after the initial enquiry

I'll make a note of it smooth brains need their name called before being able to read

 

[Ax^]

most be great fun speak to you fella face to face

start every line of conversation with your first name so you can keep up with a dialogue

 

[The39thStep]

229 roubles if reports are to be believed


hmm have you taken a look at the bridge itself? its 19km long

looks like this

for contrast this bridge cost 18 million

Do you mean 18m pounds ?

 

[Ax^]

30 magic beans fella HTH

 

[existentialist]

the ukrainians arent going to try and take crimea though, are they?

I think I'm beginning to understand where you're coming from on this whole thing...and it's not exactly good.

 

[TopCat]

30 magic beans fella HTH

The most coherent you ever are is throwing insults at posters who have questioned your assertions.

 

[Ax^]

edit** just to stop any confusion know i said your name but you might need a thread quote just to be on the safe side

The most coherent you ever are is throwing insults at posters who have questioned your assertions.

thanks topcat

you want to argue if it was 30 russian magic beans or 30 turkish magic beans

 

[TopCat]

I think I'm beginning to understand where you're coming from on this whole thing...and it's not exactly good.

Spell it out then.

 

[kebabking]

Do you mean 18m pounds ?

Does anyone really believe that a 20Km bridge cost £18m to build?

Obviously there are very different cost basis involved, but the Second Severn Crossing cost about £300m for a 5km bridge.

It might be rather more helpful than everyone charging down this ridiculous rabbit hole if we just agreed that the bridge would cost a lot of money to repair/replace, that Russia's position in Crimea would be more difficult if it was lost for a prolonged period of time, and that if Ukraine were able to damage/destroy it, they would also able to make repairing it, or replacing it much more difficult, and therefore expensive, whether that was in cash, or state resources terms.

 

[spitfire]

Does anyone really believe that a 20Km bridge cost £18m to build?

Obviously there are very different cost basis involved, but the Second Severn Crossing cost about £300m for a 5km bridge.

It might be rather more helpful than everyone charging down this ridiculous rabbit hole if we just agreed that the bridge would cost a lot of money to repair/replace, that Russia's position in Crimea would be more difficult if it was lost for a prolonged period of time, and that if Ukraine were able to damage/destroy it, they would also able to make repairing it, or replacing it much more difficult, and therefore expensive, whether that was in cash, or state resources terms.

 

[Ax^]

just love the idea of trying to gatekeep a thread that is already off the rails

most fun

 

[Spymaster]

Does anyone really believe that a 20Km bridge cost £18m to build?

The Millenium Footbridge span is something short of 400 metres and cost 18 million quid, plus another 10 mil to stop it wobbling.

Even allowing for the fact that the procurement process for the Millenium Bridge was utter dogshit and the whole process run by muppets, and then dialing in my famously dubious mathematical skills, I'd hazard a guess that a bridge nearly 50 times the length, and designed to carry heavy traffic and trains, might cost a bit more.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The Garden Bridge cost £50 million and was never even built.

A level of corruption that Putin can only dream about.

 

[Raheem]

The Garden Bridge cost £50 million and was never even built.

Worth it just for the dream, though.

 

[a_chap]

Make your mind up, 229,000,000,000 or 229 - there is a difference you know

The difference is 000000000.

I mean, that's nothing really.

 

[Pickman's model]

The difference is 000000000.

I mean, that's nothing really.

you try building a bridge many miles long for 229 roubles and you'll soon see what the difference is

 

[Ax^]

pfft it cost 30 magic beans ya twat

 

[The39thStep]

Does anyone really believe that a 20Km bridge cost £18m to build?

Obviously there are very different cost basis involved, but the Second Severn Crossing cost about £300m for a 5km bridge.

It might be rather more helpful than everyone charging down this ridiculous rabbit hole if we just agreed that the bridge would cost a lot of money to repair/replace, that Russia's position in Crimea would be more difficult if it was lost for a prolonged period of time, and that if Ukraine were able to damage/destroy it, they would also able to make repairing it, or replacing it much more difficult, and therefore expensive, whether that was in cash, or state resources terms.

Nope, nobody. Ax^ posted up a photo of the Millenium Bridge that he reckons cost 18 million something not the Kerch bridge.

 

[Ax^]

I've seen it estimated at between 3.6m dollars to 4.8m dollars from 8 sites so I am not sure where this estimate of 22 billion comes from. Have you got a source?

and I see you gone back 7 minutes ago to amend this post to billions when you you said you seen it on 8 website being built for 3.6 to 4.8 million

sad revisionist fuckwit

 

[klang]

It certainly costs me a lot of nerves over here, but no idea what the nerves / rubel exchange rate is atm.