The Ashes 2017-18
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PaoloSanchez
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Well his figures don't look too impressive but he actually bowled quite well considering he's a noob and he could easily have had another couple of wickets.
Mumbles274
running from law and the press and the parents
Crane has bowled really well for a first test. The odd loose ball, but mostly tidy and some ripping turn. He needs to be nurtured and brought on in the team. Can see him running through the Aus tail today if they don't declare
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
1-193.
Didn't quite run through the tail did he?
But! Fifth day!!
(Assuming I'm following the same Ashes series as you lot. And there are many, many times when I don't appear to be).
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
You fickle bugger, doom merchant, weather cock!1-193.
Didn't quite run through the tail did he?
But! Fifth day!!
(Assuming I'm following the same Ashes series as you lot. And there are many, many times when I don't appear to be).
It's because we're away from home, Geli. We'd have fucked 'em here!
Mumbles274
running from law and the press and the parents
No, worst figures ever on debut but on the hottest day in Sydney since 1939 I think he can be forgiven.
Truly has been dismal, when all we can hope for is batting out for a draw for 3-0 and it's painful that we can't hold out much hope of that happening
Truly has been dismal, when all we can hope for is batting out for a draw for 3-0 and it's painful that we can't hold out much hope of that happening
Mumbles274
running from law and the press and the parents
And they declared too, didn't get a chance
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Cricinfo know how to write an obituary.
Shane Warne's figures on his test debut read:1-193.
Didn't quite run through the tail did he?
But! Fifth day!!
(Assuming I'm following the same Ashes series as you lot. And there are many, many times when I don't appear to be).
1-150 from 45 overs against India in Sydney. His overall figures for that series was 1-228 and was dropped for the final test. Useless piece of shit he turned out to be.
PaoloSanchez
Well-Known Member
Indeed what a waste of space he was, eh? Crane was a bit inconsistent but showed promise and a bit of attitude and could easily have had a few more wickets to his name.
Anyway, just when England needed an Atherton vs South Africa like great escape led by their captain, he goes and pulls a sickie...
Casual Observer
enough
Criminal that Anderson was given out caught behind. Curran was looking good for a double tonne at the other end.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
I too am convinced Crane is the next Warne and if only they hadn't spiked Root...who knows what the final score might have been.
Oh yeah. 4-0.
Thank fuck that's over.
Oh yeah. 4-0.
Thank fuck that's over.
Something of a diversion but you might enjoy some highlights of that match. Warne doesn't bowl too badly really. The huge legbreak is there. Just not quite the finished article, overpitching a touch, lacking variation. Shastri was a left arm spinner himself so knows how to hit it.
PaoloSanchez
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lol @ the miserable bad loser whingeing poms. The Ashes could have been a bit more competitive, however I'm happy with the 4-0 beating. Not quite as thorough as the Mitchell Johnson 5-0 massacre last time around but good enough.
As one of the TMS commentators said, they couldn't win the Ashes on the pitch, but they certainly won it off the pitch with the Barmy Army.
"...long to reign over YOU..."
As one of the TMS commentators said, they couldn't win the Ashes on the pitch, but they certainly won it off the pitch with the Barmy Army.
"...long to reign over YOU..."
PaoloSanchez
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A lot of observers thought that Crane didn't bowl too badly either and had a bit of character. Swanny was a bit miffed about the no-ball wicket, but tbh, a spinner shouldn't be bowling anything close to no-balls, so I agree with Boycott on this one...
Yes, I have to agree with Boycott too.... bowling legspin is hard. But you really don't have to be Shane Warne to get your foot behind the line every time.
Interesting article on cricinfo placing England's problems with the highest levels of management
Tea and sympathy won't suffice as England face up to another drubbing
Interesting article on cricinfo placing England's problems with the highest levels of management
Tea and sympathy won't suffice as England face up to another drubbing
Casual Observer
enough
There were a couple of other reviews when Crane was bowling. Not sure if they were before or after the no ball wicket, but both times he was also very close to no balling. As said, a needless mistake from a spinner. Root, on the other hand, had at least half his foot behind the line - before the diarrhoea kicked in anyway.
Well the whole series was predictably miserable as I suspected, I was slightly wrong in that it wasn't 5-0. Its good that Baylis is going he hasn't advanced the team, he's failed to fix some fairly structural problems and he seems to have little interest in the wider English game sometimes to the point of seeing players in action for the first time when they get picked for England.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
It's largely a one day circus from here so people like Jimmy get to come home. The one day players seem on a 2 month slog (unless I've read this wrong) first playing Aus (5 games) then a tri-series of T20 against NZ and Aus (god knows how many games) then, erm, five more ODIs against NZ. Then there's a couple of tests against NZ in mid to late March.
That's absurd. They're going to be so burnt out. It's not even like they're being paid footballer-ish salaries.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Bayliss isn't going. He's staying for another 20 months or so.
PaoloSanchez
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"You off Geoffrey?"
"I hope so, I've had enough of this"
Boycott gave Anderson a bit of a hard time just before this chat...
It always makes me chuckle, the recriminations after any series defeat. There's also a touch of arrogance too, England are expected to win and if they don't there's a full post mortem and inquest. "Why the hell didn't we win." Well, we didn't win because the Australians on this occasion played better at home and managed to sync their good performances.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
^
You want to listen to Michael Vaughan on that. On Australia's chances of winning in England (vs England's chances of winning in Australia), on the Test grounds for the next Ashes, on the hopeless preparation we give our spinners, and on Malan vs Stoneman when it comes to practicing to make up for mistakes.
Makes a lot of sense.
You want to listen to Michael Vaughan on that. On Australia's chances of winning in England (vs England's chances of winning in Australia), on the Test grounds for the next Ashes, on the hopeless preparation we give our spinners, and on Malan vs Stoneman when it comes to practicing to make up for mistakes.
Makes a lot of sense.
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Mumbles274
running from law and the press and the parents
Jimmy's answer to Boycott 'its above my pay grade' 
Lots of not my job going on?
Vaughan may be outspoken for the sake of it sometimes but he clearly knows what he's seeing and talking about. Boycott with da mic drop!!
Lots of not my job going on?
Vaughan may be outspoken for the sake of it sometimes but he clearly knows what he's seeing and talking about. Boycott with da mic drop!!
