Opposition to Islam is not Racism.

[DotCommunist]

cheers alf, we all had a good chuckle

 

[Al Kahul]

As i have stated already i've no interest in the BNP although I do agree with there immigration policy(not there non-white bollocks)

Which one it seems to change all the time .

Other than that i have no interest in BNP or any other politics for that matter

so you won't vote then at the next election

My ''racist'' comments were tongue in cheek.....any film buffs may have picked up on:

what were they again ?

IM NOT A RACIST IM A REALIST

Ah a usual statement -what does 'realist' mean ?

IM NOT A NAZI IM A NATIONALIST

I think you will find that Nazis were nationalists -perhaps you mean you are not a Nazi Nationalist

The pakistani comment was tasteless I admit but mmm what ya gonna do

they will probably ban you . I wouldn't but its not up to me.

 

[badco]

so you won't vote then at the next election.

I'm not registered to vote

 

[chilango]

exercising self control manually.

Am I the only one sniggering at this turn of phrase?

 

[chilango]

I'm not registered to vote

why not?

 

[badco]

I think you will find that Nazis were nationalists -perhaps you mean you are not a Nazi Nationalist

Nazis and nationalists are by no means in the same catagory

dont be so stupid

 

[ViolentPanda]

I'm not registered to vote

Are you politically active at all?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Am I the only one sniggering at this turn of phrase?

It did evoke a vision of someone sitting on their hands, I admit!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Nazis and nationalists are by no means in the same catagory

dont be so stupid

In which case, which type of nationalist are you?

 

[badco]

Are you politically active at all?

I've already said no i am not

 

[chilango]

I've already said no i am not

why not?

 

[ViolentPanda]

I've already said no i am not

Then you don't really have much right to criticise, do you? The BNP and their ilk, and the Swappies and their ilk may be cunts to varying degrees, but at least they try and change the political situation, whereas you appear to be content to just piss, sulk and moan, and not get involved in trying to change anything, you want it all done for you.

 

[Nigel]

Let's face it, a privately educated tory is highly unlikely to campaign on any working class council estate.

As for 'working class socialist' Nigel, he would be in danger of being metaphorically strung-up if we came out with some of the comments he does on here.

I don't know what working class estates you're from.
From someone whose worked in construction for most of my working life & lives and socialises most of the time in those areas, you've obviously had a different experience with working class people than I have.

 

[Streathamite]

Scaffolder by trade

But due to influx of immigrants the pay in said jod has dwinddled

i hope TEH state of affairs doesnt effect your kids in years to come

Pig headed bunch of cunts

As i've said.....fuck off to Kosovo and see how much you believe in this bollocks


Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii thank you

if you'd a brain, you'd blame a) the bosses and b) the system they created, whereby you're played off against the incoming labour whose entry they enabled (the EU being a 100% capitalist construct)

 

[Streathamite]

IM NOT A RACIST IM A REALIST

No, you're not, you're a 100% mug, a patsy who fell for find-a-scapegoat, rather than join to push wages up
Somwehere, right now, the HR director of a construction firm is pissing themselves laughing at you

 

[Al Kahul]

Nazis and nationalists are by no means in the same catagory

dont be so stupid

All Nazis are nationalists -teh clue is in the name

Not all Nationalists are Nazis .

Nazis are a subset of nationalists

 

[Al Kahul]

I don't know what working class estates you're from.
From someone whose worked in construction for most of my working life & lives and socialises most of the time in those areas, you've obviously had a different experience with working class people than I have.

because,of course,working class people are all identical with the same political outlook and tastes

 

[Citizen66]

What disturbed me a few years back wasn't the Nordic obsessions, it was the fact that some of the boneheads started going all "Celt", getting triskelion and Ogham tatts etc, wearing "Celtic Power" tees. It's like they were trying to dig back deeper and deeper to find a "pure" heritage to claim.
Of course, they never took it to it's logical conclusion, because I never saw any of them wearing "African Power" tees.

They don't even need to go that far back to be wallowing in the pits of hypocrisy.
Regarding their supposed Celtic bloodline. Did they start forming close bonds with their brothers in the IRA?

 

[Citizen66]

if you'd a brain

Which he hasn't...

 

[Citizen66]

Not all Nationalists are Nazis .

All the white ones are.

 

[dennisr]

They don't even need to go that far back to be wallowing in the pits of hypocrisy.
Regarding their supposed Celtic bloodline. Did they start forming close bonds with their brothers in the IRA?

A lot of their 'blood brothers' in mainland europe have tried to at various times - always a bit of a problem for euro wide 'unity' projects of the hard right

 

[dennisr]

because,of course,working class people are all identical with the same political outlook and tastes

and the subtext shown by his presumptions and stereotypes show is how he actually looks down on the very people he is - formally - praising.

 

[Al Kahul]

They don't even need to go that far back to be wallowing in the pits of hypocrisy.
Regarding their supposed Celtic bloodline. Did they start forming close bonds with their brothers in the IRA?

strangely some of the American ones did. The Michigan Militia ,for instance,believed the Irish to be 'pure Aryans' fighting against the 'Jewish masonic' British Royal family,after an arrest of some of their members they found Gaelic langauge courses and Irish republican literature.

 

[Al Kahul]

All the white ones are.

So Irish,Scottish,Breton and Basque Nationalists are All Nazis ? I thought that the SNP were pretty standard Social democrats and the Basques and irish nationalists tended to Socialism .To think that the Basques fought against Franco when he was a fellow fascist ?

 

[Citizen66]

strangely some of the American ones did. The Michigan Militia ,for instance,believed the Irish to be 'pure Aryans' fighting against the 'Jewish masonic' British Royal family,after an arrest of some of their members they found Gaelic langauge courses and Irish republican literature.

There isn't as much of a conflict of interest there though I wouldn't have thought as between the Union flag waving jingoists and the Republicanist/nationalists of Eire and Northern Ireland.

 

[audiotech]

I don't know what working class estates you're from.
From someone whose worked in construction for most of my working life & lives and socialises most of the time in those areas, you've obviously had a different experience with working class people than I have.

I worked in construction, actually building council estates in the late 60's. My first wage as an apprentice was £3 (badco note) and I was expected to buy a book on building regs out of my own pocket.

These estates built, in the main, turned out to be thriving communities, with people employed, spending money in local shops, going to the local pub, or club, visiting community centres, each others houses etc.

Council estates today, I live on a small one, my Mother on a large one, are just not the same. They are riven with poverty and general decline, caused by decades of high levels of unemployment and lack of investment, housing large numbers of people with no hope.

I can't be bothered to again look through your comments on the unemployed, sick, disabled, one parent families, or those down trodden by this system that you've posted here, but there are many now being further left to rot on council estates in grinding poverty, with little in the way of community facilities, or even a 'community' to turn to.

I see this today. Tomorrow? Considering the present catastrophic crisis of Capitalism and the lack of any viable left alternative to it, I'm not very optimistic about the future.

I don't recognise at all the estates you experience most of the time. Maybe it's a northern phenomenon, but I doubt it?

 

[Citizen66]

So Irish,Scottish,Breton and Basque Nationalists are All Nazis ? I thought that the SNP were pretty standard Social democrats and the Basques and irish nationalists tended to Socialism .To think that the Basques fought against Franco when he was a fellow fascist ?

I was referring to the term 'White Nationalism'. Do keep up.

 

[Streathamite]

The idea of raping rather than paying 50-year old street workers for sex?

What disturbed me a few years back wasn't the Nordic obsessions, it was the fact that some of the boneheads started going all "Celt", getting triskelion and Ogham tatts etc, wearing "Celtic Power" tees. It's like they were trying to dig back deeper and deeper to find a "pure" heritage to claim.
Of course, they never took it to it's logical conclusion, because I never saw any of them wearing "African Power" tees.

y'could really wind 'em up/initiate cat/pigeons interface by pointing ou that th before the celts were scots/welsh/irish etc (going by domicile) they were....FRENCH!
(cue horrified bonehead

 

[Al Kahul]

I was referring to the term 'White Nationalism'. Do keep up.

Then you should be specific and get your grammar right before you get sarky.

You claimed all of the Nationalists who were white were Nazis.You used a small w hence nationalists who are white rather than White Nationalists.


Nazism involves an economic and social aspect that some White Nationalists do not embrace though it is probably true that most White Nationalists embrace the Ideals of the Nazis to some degree.

 

[Al Kahul]

I worked in construction, actually building council estates in the late 60's. My first wage as an apprentice was £3 (badco note) and I was expected to buy a book on building regs out of my own pocket.

These estates built, in the main, turned out to be thriving communities, with people employed, spending money in local shops, going to the local pub, or club, visiting community centres, each others houses etc.

Council estates today, I live on a small one, my Mother on a large one, are just not the same. They are riven with poverty and general decline, caused by decades of high levels of unemployment and lack of investment, housing large numbers of people with no hope.

I can't be bothered to again look through your comments on the unemployed, sick, disabled, one parent families, or those down trodden by this system that you've posted here, but there are many now being further left to rot on council estates in grinding poverty, with little in the way of community facilities, or even a 'community' to turn to.

I see this today. Tomorrow? Considering the present catastrophic crisis of Capitalism and the lack of any viable left alternative to it, I'm not very optimistic about the future.

I don't recognise at all the estates you experience most of the time. Maybe it's a northern phenomenon, but I doubt it?

This is probably more to do with Council policy of placing 'at risk' persons at the head of the Queue for Council housing to replace the original purpose of giving housing to ordinary working people.