ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Which is sadly also a motivator for the continual low-level murder of Palestinians.
Operation pillar of cloud. Israeli assault on Gaza
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Which is sadly also a motivator for the continual low-level murder of Palestinians.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
proof that boyle can open his mouth without a cunts statement issuing forth
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
i do think tho that in the next 20 years israel may well get tobe seen as a "source of instability" in the region in the same way that gaddafis regime became a "source of instability" - as mental as the israeli regime is i don't think they would do anything like attacking iran, i think they know this as well
don't forget the increased influence of china in the region a country that doesnt have the historical etc ties to israel that the us does
don't forget the increased influence of china in the region a country that doesnt have the historical etc ties to israel that the us does
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Don't know if it's much good but there's a petition against beeb bias.
http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitio...&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition
http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitio...&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition
elbows
Well-Known Member
Although I have cautioned against taking previous threats against Iran at face value, I certainly do not rule out Israel attacking specific Iranian sites from the air.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
grand
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
as opposed, presumably, to everywhere in iran getting bombed.
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
Except Libya was considered a place we could do business with and the west was all set to sell him a new lot of weapons when the Arab spring kicked off.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
they couldn't wait to topple gaddafi once blood was in the water. up untill then he was almost 'rehabilitated' and 'on side'
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
The BBC is a franchise of the Israeli Ministry of
Be interesting to see Turkeys reaction, Turkey today called Israel a terrorist state which murdered children.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
strange how attitudes differ.Ma was moaning earlier that 'they are making out its all israels fault'
Frogz was just saying that the beeb itelf might not be biased as an org to Israel but as a state mouthpiece it reflects the pro israeli attitudes of the state.
Bloody Hague
Frogz was just saying that the beeb itelf might not be biased as an org to Israel but as a state mouthpiece it reflects the pro israeli attitudes of the state.
Bloody Hague
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
tht's my point really. currently israel is seen in a similar light but that shows signs of changing espeically with china's increased infleunce in the region and that. however, so many regimes especially in that region behave in a similarway to Israel with nothing done aboutit (altho maybe not always that extreme) that i wouldn't bet on it just yet, but something like this that ends in a miscalculation on israel's part, i think it's a distinct possibility
China is not interested in human rights, its only interested in production and export.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
nah it's the uk gov't state broadcaster and their line reflects the line of the gov't more or less
wouldnt say its the franchise of israeli propaganda at all, they do showthe other side, and as other have noted it tends to be more and more apparent the more israels behaviour goes on (as during cast lead)
thing is years of complaints of whatever (especially now) have made them pretty timid and complaint, more so than usual
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
yes i know but they have more to gain from estblishing links with other arab states etc than one country in the middle east which is pretty mch tied to US interests
Its obvious the agenda if they could get away with it, is to genocide the Palestinians, but they cant while the world is watching, instead it keeps them in a concentration camp.
Its so dumb, if they gave the Palestinians hope and prosperity there would be no conflict. Prosperous people dont want conflict.
They kill peoples families and keep them locked up like animals in a zoo and they then wonder where the support for Hamas comes from.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
there would be a lot to be gained from the "reconstruction" of telaviv as well
as im saying though i dont think it will happen immediately, but i think eventually it may
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Interesting, yes - they could win a lot of friends by taking a 'principled stand' where the US and the west have just shown their hypocrisy.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
yep
i don't say it will happen immediately because i don't think anyone is in a position to do so yet but i think eventually (as in the next 20years( it is gonna become a possibility (not one tht will necessarly be carriedout tho) and i can't believe that it is one that the israeli gov't haven't considered
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Those words? Do you have a link? That's an interesting line from a NATO country to say the least.
http://www.france24.com/en/20121119-turkey-pm-labels-israel-terrorist-state-over-gaza
Turkey PM labels Israel 'terrorist state' over Gaza The international community is watching "as Israel violently massacres innocent children in Gaza," Erdogan said in an address to religious leaders of Muslim countries gathered in Istanbul, labelling Israel "a terrorist state".
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Ah yes. All the same, for a US ally to say that at the very least shows, well it shows Israel won't be joining NATO any time soon.
Strikes me that Israel's support around the world is - US apart - wafer-thin. Even the mealy-mouthed UK could turn very quickly on them.
And as the US loses much of its global military power over the next 30 years and the Islamic nations become more militarily proficient, it looks like interesting times.
If Iran gets the bomb, it will mean they can openly arm and support campaigns against Israel in defence of the Palestinians.
Israel will be forced in the long term to compromise. The balance of power will become less one sided.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yes, there must be Israelis who fear the decline of the US, which I think will be a slow decline, but an inevitable one. Surely more thoughtful Israelis will be thinking about the post-US future.
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