Nicola Bulley Missing

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Expert says that the police have got it all wrong but he's on GBNEWS which is almost enough to overcome my innate belief in police incompetence. He claims that they haven't sealed off the area she disappeared from and that you would expect the body not to move that far up or downstream.

If he insists "she is NOT in that river" why is his underwater search company being used?

 

[Spymaster]

If he insists "she is NOT in that river" why is his underwater search company being used?

It's not. He says his firm is the official dive team for the south east. Lancashire is in the north west.

 

[Cid]

If he insists "she is NOT in that river" why is his underwater search company being used?

Spy replied while I was answering, but I copied the text of the article so people don't have to give gbn clicks.

Speaking to GB News, world renowned forensics expert Peter Faulding said: “I've worked on hundreds of these cases, as we deal with them for the police across the whole of the southeast. We're the official dive team for the police across the southeast.

Forensics expert Peter Faulding says he doesn't believe Nicola Bulley is in the river GB News
“The amount of searching that's gone on in this river, I would have thought she would have been found by now.

“Normally when a person drowns, if they are left a number of days they don't move very far. This is not a fast tidal river. So I would have expected her to be found by the police divers by now.

“Apparently sonar has been used, but that's only as good as the equipment or the operator using them. We could have scanned this river with our equipment within a day and seen if there was a body there. It's as clear as that. And you know, none of this rings right to me. My belief is she's not in not in the river at all.”

He continued: “I personally think this phone could be a decoy. We dealt with a drowning a couple of years ago where a gentleman went into a river and Ripley, his dog, was screaming by the riverbank when we got there. When we arrived it was howling, and literally pointing exactly where he was. He stayed with his owner.

“The phone on the bench, I mean, you have to ask, normally someone would have a phone in their hand especially if they were walking around.

“Even the clothing feels odd, no one spoke about how deep the water is actually at the bottom of the bank where it went in. I've heard rumours it's 18 inches deep at the edge. I mean, the clothing she was wearing was not woolly clothing that absorbs water quickly.

“She seems a very fit person. Why were there no screams? Why were there no marks?

Nicola Bulley went missing while walking her dog more than a week ago PA
“What I am also surprised about is that the area hasn't been sealed off as a crime scene or for forensics.

“People have been walking past the bench. There's no police tape up. This would normally be sealed off as a crime scene so potentially crime scene investigators can go in and see if there are any microfibres, evidence, slip marks down the bank etc and I don't believe that has actually happened here.”

 

[Cid]

Most of what he says is as speculative as anything... Just seems to be the standard gamut of 'reckons' with no more depth.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

He's going to look pretty daft if her body shows up in the estuary.

 

[Indeliblelink]

It's not. He says his firm is the official dive team for the south east. Lancashire is in the north west.

They are using his company according to his twitter.

I'm sure he knows his stuff and the media are emphasising bits for clickbait. Although RE: body moving, when they found Anthony Knott last January, after 3 weeks, his body had moved a few miles down the Ouse which is also pretty slow flowing.

 

[Aladdin]

His interview was on sky news yesterday.

 

[Cid]

They are using his company according to his twitter.

I'm sure he knows his stuff and the media are emphasising bits for clickbait. Although RE: body moving, when they found Anthony Knott last January, after 3 weeks, his body had moved a few miles down the Ouse which is also pretty slow flowing.

Ah, seems to be in response to him saying they should.

 

[Pickman's model]

They are using his company according to his twitter.

I'm sure he knows his stuff and the media are emphasising bits for clickbait. Although RE: body moving, when they found Anthony Knott last January, after 3 weeks, his body had moved a few miles down the Ouse which is also pretty slow flowing

Will use does not go with are using, do you see the difference?

 

[Spymaster]

Most of what he says is as speculative as anything... Just seems to be the standard gamut of 'reckons' with no more depth.

He makes a reasonable point about the phone though. Very odd that it gets left on a bench.

 

[Cid]

He makes a reasonable point about the phone though. Very odd that it gets left on a bench.

I don't think so... quiet village, not London park. Nothing that odd about having it sat on a bench when you've got a work call on speaker or something.

 

[belboid]

It was a work call. She formally logged in then put the phone down so she could ignore it. Perfectly normal behaviour.

 

[Duncan2]

I don't think so... quiet village, not London park. Nothing that odd about having it sat on a bench when you've got a work call on speaker or something.

cant see much point in having your phone on speaker and then wandering off without it it to fall into the river.But thats just me

 

[Magnus McGinty]

cant see much point in having your phone on speaker and then wandering off without it it to fall into the river.But thats just me

The bench is next to the river, not miles away. And she probably wasn't expecting to fall in, if that is what happened. She expected to return to the bench.

 

[LDC]

cant see much point in having your phone on speaker and then wandering off without it it to fall into the river.But thats just me

People do all sorts of stuff that there's no logical or clear point to though, it's just what we all do all the time. It's only when something like this happens that it seems to make no sense, most of the time it just never gets noticed.

 

[Duncan2]

The bench is next to the river, not miles away. And she probably wasn't expecting to fall in, if that is what happened. She expected to return to the bench.

if she wasnt expecting to fall in you might think she would have kept it with her.

 

[JimW]

As mentioned earlier, put it down and go for a piss behind a bush is one possibility. Seems absolutely normal.

 

[cesare]

As mentioned earlier, put it down and go for a piss behind a bush is one possibility. Seems absolutely normal.

I get what you mean, but even when I go off for a piss in the wilds I put my phone in my pocket or in my bag. I never walk off without my phone.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

if she wasnt expecting to fall in you might think she would have kept it with her.

Perhaps she needed to approach the river for reasons we don't know and didn't want to drop it in?

 

[JimW]

I get what you mean, but even when I go off for a piss in the wilds I put my phone in my pocket or in my bag. I never walk off without my phone.

It being on a call might have affected the decision making.

 

[Cid]

There's faff if your phone is on a conference call and you want to pick it up. You can't log out of the app after all. If you're just walking a couple of meters away to see whether the dog's gone in the river, clear your head or whatever why would you pick it up?

 

[LDC]

I get what you mean, but even when I go off for a piss in the wilds I put my phone in my pocket or in my bag. I never walk off without my phone.

Yeah but that's you, not everyone. It's really not odd to stick your phone somewhere while you're doing something else, especially if it's on a work speakerphone call.

 

[cesare]

It being on a call might have affected the decision making.

Good point. But if I was on a call I'd be even more certain to take it with me in case someone asked me something.

 

[Spymaster]

I don't think so... quiet village, not London park. Nothing that odd about having it sat on a bench when you've got a work call on speaker or something.

But you'd pick it up when you walked away.

 

[Duncan2]

As mentioned earlier, put it down and go for a piss behind a bush is one possibility. Seems absolutely normal.

there is a possibility of that -the other point the guy from GB news makes is perhaps a stronger one.If she is in the river (he speaks from experience) she wouldnt have got far and certainly not 15 kms to the Coast.The police aerial shot shows the Wyre to be very windy indeed so there would have to be a very strong chance of a body in the river getting stranded or more likely snagged up somewhere in the vicinity.

 

[cesare]

Yeah but that's you, not everyone. It's really not odd to stick your phone somewhere while you're doing something else, especially if it's on a work speakerphone call.

Hopefully the OB have asked her friends what she does with videocalls, having her phone with her etc.

 

[Spymaster]

As mentioned earlier, put it down and go for a piss behind a bush is one possibility. Seems absolutely normal.

Why would you leave your phone on a bench to have a piss?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

But you'd pick it up when you walked away.

I've walked off accidently from my phone and the first I've known about it is when my airpods disconnected. I've also deliberately done so if I'm in a safe enough environment.

 

[Cid]

But you'd pick it up when you walked away.

Nope. Not if it's just a leg stretch or wandering over to look at something. I would if I was in London, or in a city park here in Sheffield, but e.g out on the peaks? Nah. Do it all the time in my workshop; obviously that's a secure environment, but principle is similar. I think attitudes to phones have changed significantly over the last few year, much less an irreplaceable thing that must be kept with you at all times.

 

[LDC]

But you'd pick it up when you walked away.

People forget, or get momentarily distracted, all sorts of stuff happens. I've done it loads when on a Teams call or similar and want to get on with other stuff.

I'd be willing to bet she left it on the bench playing with the dog or wandering about with half an ear on the phone, then something random and very unlucky happened and she fell in the river, body swept downstream and snagged on something and just not found yet.

That's clearly the police's view as well.