Jihadi Jack wants to come back because he misses Dr Who

[Pickman's model]

The UK and Canada should meet half way and dump the cunt mid-Atlantic.

What have the azores done to deserve that?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

What have the azores done to deserve that?

If he swims the 350 miles to the Azores then I will
personally pick the prick up.


And take him back to the start point, with some bricks in his pockets.

 

[Pickman's model]

If he swims the 350 miles to the Azores then I will
personally pick the prick up.


And take him back to the start point, with some bricks in his pockets.

Get your speedos on

 

[SpackleFrog]

She must have been very headstrong and very brainwashed. Its a massive thinf for any teenager to leave home and fly half way round the world to join a group of strangers...but to join IS?
She surely knew what she was doing.

Brainwashed into knowing what she was doing?

 

[Yossarian]

I think Canada is going to end up with this guy, unfortunately - Canadian authorities have supposedly said they're trying to assist, and the government has stressed in other cases that "a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian" - I don't disagree with the policy, but it'd be kind of low for Britain to take advantage of it to offload somebody like Letts, who was born and raised in Britain.

Alleged ISIS operative 'Jihadi Jack' begs Canada to let him come here | CBC News

 

[Treacle Toes]

I think Canada is going to end up with this guy, unfortunately - Canadian authorities have supposedly said they're trying to assist, and the government has stressed in other cases that "a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian" - I don't disagree with the policy, but it'd be kind of low for Britain to take advantage of it to offload somebody like Letts, who was born and raised in Britain.

Alleged ISIS operative 'Jihadi Jack' begs Canada to let him come here | CBC News

That was a year ago wasn't it?

 

[Baronage-Phase]

Brainwashed into knowing what she was doing?

Into believing what she was doing was ok... she knew what she was doing...she felt it was ok.

 

[Yossarian]

That was a year ago wasn't it?

Oops, thought that was Feb. 2019, doesn't look like too much has happened with the Canadians since - might be getting a little too close to the election now for Trudeau to want to do anything.

 

[extra dry]

There are already 200-300 former ISIS fighters/brainwashed Jihadis back in the UK. Being carefully monitored and having weekly welfare visits I hope.

 

[Poi E]

Turdeau had more important things to do, like legalise weed.

 

[Spymaster]

There were 528 posts on the Jihadi Bride Shamina Begum thread within the first 24 hours of the thread being posted. I predict that this one, and Jihadi Jack himself will not emote people quite as much.

Looks like this prediction was correct. I reckon the rugby and it being a weekend have had a bit of an effect but Jihadi Jack is still 200 odd posts less hated than Shameema Begum.

 

[Pickman's model]

Looks like this prediction was correct. I reckon the rugby and it being a weekend have had a bit of an effect but Jihadi Jack is still 200 odd posts less hated than Shameema Begum.

I think people have been put off by theatrical displays of emoting

 

[Athos]

Looks like this prediction was correct. I reckon the rugby and it being a weekend have had a bit of an effect but Jihadi Jack is still 200 odd posts less hated than Shameema Begum.

64% more racist.

 

[Pickman's model]

Looks like this prediction was correct. I reckon the rugby and it being a weekend have had a bit of an effect but Jihadi Jack is still 200 odd posts less hated than Shameema Begum.

Oh and there'd be more posts on this thread if only Rutita1 had done more to create an argument

 

[Pickman's model]

Turdeau had more important things to do, like legalise weed.

Turdeau is a shit politician

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Just watched the itv interview. He clearly is unwell like shamima.

Are you a doctor? What’s the diagnoses doc, will they make it?

 

[newbie]

I'll give you another real life example, my daughter's 16 year old mate from across the road is ethnically Indian, born in this country to Indian parents born in this country, her grandparents came to this country from India, She is proud of what she is but considers herself first and foremost British.
However under Indian law, since both her grandfathers came from India her parents both inherited Indian citizenship from their fathers (Indian citizenship used to be only be inherited from fathers not mothers but can be inherited from either since 1992)
In 2004 India changed the law so children born abroad can't inherit Indian citizenship unless they are registered within 1 year of birth, she was born in 2002 so she is by default a dual citizen of India and the UK but I suspect she probably hasn't ever thought about it much.
Now she's a good kid who wants to be a scientist and is most unlikely to run off and join a death cult but her status is just as precarious as Begum's, if Javid gets his way. It's all very well saying people will only have their citizenship revoked for serious crimes but serious crimes is a moving target where does it end? Terror cults?, murder?, rape? burglary?, taking part in demonstrations?, aggressive begging? parking offences?
Lots of people would be happy about moving the scale rightwards but the further right you move it the easier it becomes to move it further.
I don't think my daughter's mate is ever likely to lose her British citizenship for taking part in a student protest but I don't think there should be even a theoretical mechanism for doing this and if that means we're stuck with the likes of Begum so be it.

Worth repeating. I hope someone is busily compiling a full list of those who Javid considers sufficiently second class.

It took a while for the appalling Windrush scandal to sink in, before Rudd resigned as HS. Hopefully it won't be so long before this sees off her replacement.

 

[Spymaster]

Worth repeating. I hope someone is busily compiling a full list of those who Javid considers sufficiently second class.

Don't fall for this nonsense.

Nobody has been able to give a single example of a British born dual national being stripped of their UK citizenship when they haven't committed massive crime. It's mission creep bollocks. The idea that the Home Secretary should not be able to remove the UK element of dual nationality from treasonous, genocidal, rapists, is insane.

 

[newbie]

Don't fall for this nonsense.

Nobody has been able to give a single example of a British born dual national being stripped of their UK citizenship when they haven't committed a massive crime. It's mission creep bollocks. The idea that the Home Secretary shouldn't be able to remove the UK element of dual nationality is insane.

Wrong. In the case of people born here and who have taken no positive steps to build a life as citizens of somewhere else, the idea that s/he should be able to do so is appalling.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Wrong. In the case of people born here and who have taken no positive steps to build a life as citizens of somewhere else, the idea that s/he should be able to do so is appalling.

Yep. It's a question here of keeping check on the arbitrary use of power by the state over individuals. 'We need these powers to keep you safe!' is the usual cry from governments. We've heard an awful lot of that over the last 20 years. But while a state can protect its citizens, citizens also need safeguards and protection from the state. We toss those safeguards away at our peril.

 

[Spymaster]

It's a question here of keeping check on the arbitrary use of power by the state over individuals.

That's the appeal process.

 

[newbie]

That's the appeal process.

so the executive should, at the very least, be able to arbitrarily tie some citizens up in a protracted, and potentially multi-jurisdictional, legal dispute but not tie others up, based on parental background and laws elsewhere? Of course it's second class citizenry.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

That's the appeal process.

And perhaps the result of that may be a clear indication that the government should not have done this and must not do it again. I don't place an enormous amount of faith in the legal process, but that would be a positive outcome from this mess. Still no reason to cheer on the arbitrary use of power in the first place. Doing that simply places you in the role of useful idiot.

 

[Spymaster]

And perhaps the result of that may be a clear indication that the government should not have done this and must not do it again.

It may be. Or it could be agreed that the Home Secretary of an elected government is perfectly within his rights to remove the British rights from dual nationals who jet around the world to engage in treason, rape, and genocide.

I don't place an enormous amount of faith in the legal process, but that would be a positive outcome from this mess.

Yet you have enough faith in it to argue that these slugs should be brought here and tried by it.

 

[Spymaster]

so the executive should, at the very least, be able to arbitrarily tie some citizens up in a protracted, and potentially multi-jurisdictional, legal dispute but not tie others up, based on parental background and laws elsewhere?

Absolutely.

Of course it's second class citizenry

Only of any consequence to those who fancy a sabbatical to engage in a bit of rapey, terrorism. Unless you can point to any other abuses of this power of course.

 

[kebabking]

Absolutely.

Only of any consequence to those who fancy a sabbatical to engage in a bit of rapey, terrorism. Unless you can point to any other abuses of this power of course.

I've been a duel citizen my whole life - some 44 years - and so far I have snuck under under the radar by not joining a 'state' that is at war with the UK. It's a bit of a drag sometimes, but I've managed it.

It is possible to avoid this endless terror hanging over us 'secondies'.

#staystrong #

 

[newbie]

Absolutely.

Only of any consequence to those who fancy a sabbatical to engage in a bit of rapey, terrorism. Unless you can point to any other abuses of this power of course.

Is it? The Home Office don't publish details and the proceedings of the Special Immigration Appeals Commission aren't public. Evidence is, or can be, presented to the judges and carefully vetted advocates without the person concerned knowing what it is. In the cases where citizenship has been revoked they're almost certainly outside the country when the hearing takes place. So how on earth can you claim such certainty about the process? Perhaps what you mean is we should trust that our betters won't do it to someone we care about?

 

[danny la rouge]

Looks like this prediction was correct. I reckon the rugby and it being a weekend have had a bit of an effect but Jihadi Jack is still 200 odd posts less hated than Shameema Begum.

I think the only fair thing to do is click thread tools > Who Replied on both threads and compare post counts of the contributors. Anyone who contributed more to the Shamima Begun thread is measurably racist.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Misrepresenting what's been posted and race baiting... Well done.

 

[Spymaster]

Misrepresenting what's been posted and race baiting... Well done.

Eh? Who?