The kulaks are revolting - does Urban back big farmer?

[Funky_monks]

Jesus

There is a certain level of arrogance involved in blustering into a discussion with a scientist who's field it is, providing scant or no evidence for your assertions and then resorting to insults.

I'd make very sure I knew what I was talking about and had evidence for it if I was going to argue with, say a biochemist in a discussion about their field of biochemistry, and even then, Id be very prepared for them to pull a whole load of other evidence out/give angles to the discussion I hadn't been previously aware of.

 

[brogdale]

Back OT, scientific knowledge, encyclopaedic or not, is hardly a prerequisite to seeing what a bunch of whingeing, tax dodging cunts the farm bosses are.

 

[Rompipalle]

Edit. Bugger. Just spotted that someone has already posted it.

Meh.

 

[Rompipalle]

By training? You mean you have a Batchelor's degree?
You didn't even understand how plants used nutrients on the last thread.

FWIW I trained as a secondary science teacher and completed my NQT year before I left for HE and the standard of scientific knowledge amongst the teachers wasn't exactly encyclopaedic, but then I've marked some pretty poor undergrad theses who still went on to achieve a degree.

Batchelor’s do cup-a-soup - not degrees.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Jesus

There is a certain level of arrogance involved in blustering into a discussion with a scientist who's field it is, providing scant or no evidence for your assertions and then resorting to insults.

I'd make very sure I knew what I was talking about and had evidence for it if I was going to argue with, say a biochemist in a discussion about their field of biochemistry, and even then, Id be very prepared for them to pull a whole load of other evidence out/give angles to the discussion I hadn't been previously aware of.

This a politics thread, not a biochemistry thread.

And I will bow to your superior knowledge in the latter field when you come up with a citation for the nonsense phrase 'photosynthetic inversion' and not before.

 

[Funky_monks]

This a politics thread, not a biochemistry thread.

And I will bow to your superior knowledge in the latter field when you come up with a citation for the nonsense phrase 'photosynthetic inversion' and not before.

Firstly, yes I know it's a politics thread. My point was that I'm not a biochemist, just like you are not an Agricultural Scientist and, were I to be having a discussion with someone who was an expert in a scientific field that wasn't mine, I would go about it quite carefully to make sure I had my facts and references correct and I would still expect them to know more about it than me. You appear not to have that notion, presuming instead that your BSc in an unrelated subject and career as a science teacher somehow furnish you with a better grasp of a subject that somebody who's scientific field it is, which is breathtakingly arrogant.

I was referring to this process, call it what you like: What happens when plants dominate lakes?

Its a term I had heard used a fair bit in the fisheries/aquatic management sector, and yes, I get that it is the available products of photosynthesis in the water that are inverted and the co2 is due to respiration, but that seems like a relatively minor quibble to have, really.

The point I was making on the thread, I think was that this is how eutrophication kills aquatic life, unless you dispute that too.

 

[teqniq]

Won't somebody think of the serfs....

 

[seventh bullet]

Fetch the trebuchet.

 

[ddraig]

More whingeing!
probably some of the first people to condemn other protests and blockaded tho, cunts

Inheritance tax: Holyhead Port protest farmers warn of more demos

Protesters parked 40 tractors in front of Holyhead Port over the UK government inheritance tax plan.

www.bbc.co.uk

They parked 40 tractors in front of Holyhead Port on Anglesey into the early hours of Thursday, causing delays to services over planned changes to inheritance tax for farmers.

 

[Elpenor]

Will they be getting a five stretch?

 

[brogdale]

Bet the Daily Mail will fill its boots...

 

[Elpenor]

They’ll be getting a five stretch then?

 

[brogdale]

They’ll be getting a five stretch then?

innit?

 

[tim]

They’ll be getting a five stretch then?

It'll take them that long to drive home.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

They travelled under the banner of "Starmer the Farmer Harmer" yesterday apparently.

 

[brogdale]

They travelled under the banner of "Starmer the Farmer Harmer" yesterday apparently.

Got more of a ring to it than "Tax dodging cunts", I suppose.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Bet the Daily Mail will fill its boots...

Pathetic fucking bell ends.

 

[rubbershoes]

Their suggestion is that instead of taxing them, the government should reduce waste and be more careful about taxpayers' money.

I don't remember the NFU complaining about £50m being spent on the Rwanda deportation scheme

 

[Saunders]

Ah most of my near neighbours are farmers
I know I’m very lucky to live where I do and also wouldn’t want to be a farmer. No doubt the new tax will effect something

 

[brogdale]

Ah most of my near neighbours are farmers
I know I’m very lucky to live where I do and also wouldn’t want to be a farmer. No doubt the new tax will effect something

But, of course, Inheritance Tax is not a new tax, the vast majority of the population are liable to pay IHT if their estates are sufficiently large. What is new is that farmland owners will receive a 50% discount on what everyone else pays, as opposed to the 100% exemption they've enjoyed since 1984.

 

[Sue]

Ah most of my near neighbours are farmers
I know I’m very lucky to live where I do and also wouldn’t want to be a farmer. No doubt the new tax will effect something

I'm not sure living near a load of farmers makes you lucky.

 

[tim]

I'm not sure living near a load of farmers makes you lucky.

Certainly not if you are livestock.

 

[brogdale]

Certainly not if you are livestock.

or wildlife.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I'm not sure living near a load of farmers makes you lucky.

It mostly means you've got a tory MP and you live in constant fear of someone shooting your dog.

 

[Funky_monks]

It mostly means you've got a tory MP and you live in constant fear of someone shooting your dog.

Whilst the former is true, I can't say the latter would be - plenty of people seem to be so very unconcerned by that eventuality, they are happy to have their pooch chase and kill your sheep with no sense that might be in any way their fault.

Speaking as someone who had sheep on a down with public access, of course.

 

[Saunders]

I'm not sure living near a load of farmers makes you lucky.

Where I live, it does

 

[klang]

It mostly means you've got a tory MP and you live in constant fear of someone shooting your dog.

My dad trained his dog for truffles and bragged about it at the local taverna when he was pissed.
The dog was poisoned within 24 hours.

 

[Funky_monks]

My dad trained his dog for truffles and bragged about it at the local taverna when he was pissed.
The dog was poisoned within 24 hours.

Is this in the UK? I remember reading something or another about how fierce competition/rivalries for truffles is/are in certain parts of Europe.

 

[klang]

Is this in the UK? I remember reading something or another about how fierce competition/rivalries for truffles is/are in certain parts of Europe.

Very stiff policies and procedures wrt truffles where he is.

 

[Funky_monks]

Where I live, it does

If you live in the countryside, especially in the West of England/Upland areas where farms are often smaller, its just...... usual