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Nicola Bulley Missing

I must of missed that bit in the film
I think the film was sanitised a bit for American audiences, but there was some vague reference to the nude painting thing.

According to historians, the water wasn't that cold, but a lot of people died because they were naked. And the sea was a rainbow of Winsor and Newton.
 
Did you manage to get him in the end?

Yeah, once I convinced him the layer of nice green weed on the surface of the pond was grass and he could walk on it, but the water was only deep enough for him to vanish momentarily leaving a nice hole in the weed. The other time I told him to put his inflatable armbands on his ankles.

I also remember being really disappointed when I tied him to the tail of a kite and the kite wouldn't lift him into the sky.
 


Pine might have allowed the two to both survive long enough for rescue. However, due to the way the panel flipped when Jack tried to grab it after Rose was clinging on, the wood was most likely oak.

Unfortunately, the size of the oak debris coupled with the weight of a sodden and hypothermic Rose on top could work, but not if you added Jack's additional weight to it. Since the Maritime Museum confirmed that the original wood paneling was indeed oak, this solution makes the most sense.
 
So there is apparently Fitbit data ... and I've seen a demo of 5G signal data being used to recreate ghostly video of a moving person blocking signals - not that it would ever be set up that way ...
However this turns out, it gives food for thought about acceptable risks... i.e walking alone beside water without at least wearing some sort of discrete flotation device - let alone cycling along a towpath - certainly at night ... and if I ever take to the sea in a boat in my 60s - as I have pencilled-in, I will want every bit of tech going...
 
Yeah, once I convinced him the layer of nice green weed on the surface of the pond was grass and he could walk on it, but the water was only deep enough for him to vanish momentarily leaving a nice hole in the weed. The other time I told him to put his inflatable armbands on his ankles.

I also remember being really disappointed when I tied him to the tail of a kite and the kite wouldn't lift him into the sky.
Best I managed was suggesting my brother have a lie down after having filled his pillowcase full of spiky horse chestnut shells.
 
And there was the time I slipped off the roof at lower clapton but grabbed the handrail, was holding a bag of kebabs at the time, saved me, saved the kebabs. #winning. El jugs goes in far more often than I do. I remember the time we were moored at the canal museum in Kings X, you can pay to stop one night so we did to break the journey through town. This wanker came out of the permanent moorings and mansplained to us about how to be a proper continuous cruiser (we weren’t at the time), like we were noobs. Went inside, was working in the back at my desk, stood up to get something from the shelf behind me, heard a splash. El Jugs was putting the hose pipe away and I’d rocked the boat and tipped him in. Yeah, we looked like experts. 🤦🏼‍♀️
Another time he was wiping the toilet cassette down outside on the front deck and the lid went in and he went in head first to grab it. Goalkeeper save.
Until these posts of yours, I'd harboured romantic notions of boat life but you've successfully done away with them, thank you, in absolutely the nicest kind of way, I now know I could never be a boater 😃👍
 
The tide kept pulling you out. In a lake.
It was a really hot day and I was sweating cobs. So like a daft fuckin eejit I thought that nice alpine lake will cool me off nicely. It did. The lake was freezing and the shock hit me hard after a few strokes. All my strength went out of me with the sudden cold. I couldn't even float on my back. I tried to struggle back to the bank but seemed to be getting no nearer and was at the point of giving up and letting go. So I went under for what would probably be the last time and my foot touched bottom. This gave me that last push to get the fuck out.

I was a cocky bastard. I'd thought I was a fairly strong swimmer. After that experience though, I decided swimming was shite and only something I'd do if I accidentally fell in the water.
 
It was a really hot day and I was sweating cobs. So like a daft fuckin eejit I thought that nice alpine lake will cool me off nicely. It did. The lake was freezing and the shock hit me hard after a few strokes. All my strength went out of me with the sudden cold. I couldn't even float on my back. I tried to struggle back to the bank but seemed to be getting no nearer and was at the point of giving up and letting go. So I went under for what would probably be the last time and my foot touched bottom. This gave me that last push to get the fuck out.

I was a cocky bastard. I'd thought I was a fairly strong swimmer. After that experience though, I decided swimming was shite and only something I'd do if I accidentally fell in the water.
This reminds me of a (somewhat less traumatic) experience where I decided to relax on a lilo in relatively warm Spanish waters in the sea. When I did a reality check the shore was very small and so I frantically started paddling back but despite whatever effort I put in I made little progress.
After a time I realised that the water I was in was still pretty shallow and I simply got off and walked back to the beach with it under my arm. :facepalm:
 
Mythbusters managed it (yes, I believe they used oak).


Kind of. That video shows it’s only possible if Jack and Rose had the wherewithal to take her life jacket off, successfully tie it (in the dark and in freezing water) under the board and then both get on the board. Without knowing in advance that this tactic would work, and while risking everything to try it.

As far as I’m concerned, that means they proved that the scriptwriters basically had it right. No way would real people in those conditions think to try that and then successfully pull it off even if they did think of it.
 

"The second new line of inquiry relates to a Fitbit Ms Bulley was wearing on the morning she vanished. Police hope to use technology to help track her whereabouts via the smart watch."

"Fitbits are also capable of monitoring a heart rate and could provide vital clues relating to Ms Bulley's last known movements before she vanished. "


Eta it appears from news articles that her fitbit synced 4 days after she disappeared. Not sure what that means but maybe the police have been looking into this also.
 
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I had an embarrassing incident in 2007 near Sennen where a lifeguard had to come out on his board and tell me to stop trying to swim against the rip. (I had a bodyboard on a leash so wasn't completely reckless)
I wish he'd spoken to me once I was out of the water and explained rips to me - it wasn't until I saw Bondi Rescue that I learned.
I hope I was at least swimming between the flags ...

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I once wandered off from a party on a canal boat for a piss, took a couple of steps into some reeds or whatever and abruptly found myself over my head in cold dark water, weighed down by jacket and boots - I think it could well have ended up as a missing person case if the water had been flowing or if it had been February instead of May or June.

I managed to clamber out to return to the party and borrow some dry clothes from the host - was surprised that my Nokia phone still worked when it dried out.
 
The local paper here had better turn off comments for this story, the latest update is now filled with amateur detectives, self-styled psychics,cynical keyboard warriors, and assorted shit-stirrers. One has uploaded a mobile phone clip of a Sky News interview with the husband during which they occasionally point at the screen and saying "look, look!" as though the faintest glimpse of a facial tic is enough to condemn him.
 
I once wandered off from a party on a canal boat for a piss, took a couple of steps into some reeds or whatever and abruptly found myself over my head in cold dark water, weighed down by jacket and boots - I think it could well have ended up as a missing person case if the water had been flowing or if it had been February instead of May or June.

I managed to clamber out to return to the party and borrow some dry clothes from the host - was surprised that my Nokia phone still worked when it dried out.
The old Nokia phones used to be pretty indestructible.
I remember a friend of mine couldn't find his Nokia. He searched for 2 days and then borrowed another phone to ring it to try to locate it . Turned out the phone was buried in the garden. His dog had taken it and buried it.

The phone had tooth marks and was a bit worse for being buried but worked.
 
Kind of. That video shows it’s only possible if Jack and Rose had the wherewithal to take her life jacket off, successfully tie it (in the dark and in freezing water) under the board and then both get on the board. Without knowing in advance that this tactic would work, and while risking everything to try it.

As far as I’m concerned, that means they proved that the scriptwriters basically had it right. No way would real people in those conditions think to try that and then successfully pull it off even if they did think of it.

Yeah, I agree really, just added datum as it were.

There's a youtuber called Jacob Geller who does well thought out video essays (usually spinning off video games, but that's reductive); his one on cold is worth a watch. I think we profoundly misunderstand our relationship to our environments... The 'but they could...' of titanic is part of that - there is something incomprehensible about a total loss of power in the face of something as utterly implacable as cold or water. They're situations we struggle to put ourselves in because to be human is to exercise some level of control on our relationship to the places we routinely inhabit. It's almost necessary to construct a narrative with some directed actor, or some particular mistake or factor that means it couldn't happen to us.

 
Expert says that the police have got it all wrong but he's on GBNEWS which is almost enough to overcome my innate belief in police incompetence. He claims that they haven't sealed off the area she disappeared from and that you would expect the body not to move that far up or downstream.

 
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