trashpony
Hag
You do realise that to become a psychiatrist you have to have completed a medical degree first?
5:2 Diet book author and TV presenter, Michael Mosley, missing
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WouldBe
Dislicksick
Yet you can't see the similarity between drugs not working for everyone and diets not working for everyone.
Nice try editing your post #143 to be completely different when I've already quoted it.
freshapple
Active Member
After graduating in medicine, Mosley elected not to begin working as a pre-registration house officer and pursue a career as a doctor,
FabricLiveBaby!
Live Baby Fabric!
Makes a change from meeting medical GPs and Physician's, and being passed on to psychiatrists whose only knowledge is general practitioning is to be happy to diagnose me with "anxiety" and "depression" because I'm woman:
Only for it to be later determined, that actually , I have Elhers Danlos Syndrome, Hashimostos thyroiditis, and a rotator cuff tear..
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
There is a similarity but I wasn’t making the comparison. I was criticising diet books, especilally those promoting weight loss and written by people not qualified to do so, but I not wasn’t criticising the prescribing of medicines. Only you made that comparison.Yet you can't see the similarity between drugs not working for everyone and diets not working for everyone.
Nice try editing your post #143 to be completely different when I've already quoted it.
Re: the edit. I changed my mind shortly after posting and edited it to be less harsh, while you were replying. But I take it back cos you are clearly thick as mince.
petee
no gods, no malarkey
i've been diagnosed with anxiety and depression and i'm a man.
it later turned out that i had a pinched nerve because i had the flu that bad. i still have only about 60% use of one of my arms.
felixthecat
are we there yet?
Having been on the diet roller coaster all my life I honestly think for a lot of chronically overweight people a psychiatrist is a more appropriate specialist than a dietician. Weight management is more than what you put in your mouth; it is much more about what goes on between the ears .
He was basically one of the more positive and engaging healthy living promoters and he will be missed by many
He was basically one of the more positive and engaging healthy living promoters and he will be missed by many
Sir Belchalot
arenicola marina
R.I.P. don’t think I’ve ever seen any of his TV programmes. Dodgy diets & the Daily Fail aside, at least he doesn’t seem to be related to Oswald. Mad dogs & Englishmen comes to mind though.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
I think the problem is that most people don't understand diets. Most people I've met think that because they've been overeating (hence putting on weight) that they can go on a diet and after getting down to their required weight can then go back to what they were eating before.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
No shit, sherlock.I think the problem is that most people don't understand diets. Most people I've met think that because they've been overeating (hence putting on weight) that they can go on a diet and after getting down to their required weight can then go back to what they were eating before.
You should write a book
Meanwhile, have a listen to the Maintenance Phase podcast and get a clue
Cid
Proper break this time
He wasn't a psychiatrist either, not unless he'd kept up CPD requirements over the last 40 years. I really do get the affection for him; just a reassuring, calm manner to him. But he also advocated for an 800k/cal day keto diet. A mildly saner 800k/cal day keto diet than some others, but still.
I'll add there is some evidence for that working... at least VLCD rapid weight loss for diabetes, but man is it risky promoting that as a book/website.
I'll add there is some evidence for that working... at least VLCD rapid weight loss for diabetes, but man is it risky promoting that as a book/website.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Think you'll find it's people who want to lose weight that need to get a clue.
And as a diet / maintenance diet will be different for everyone then blindly following a book that can't possibly cover the different requirements for everyone is down to the 'patient' thinking it will which you can't blame the author for but nevermind eh.
Cid
Proper break this time
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I think the problem is that most people don't understand diets. Most people I've met think that because they've been overeating (hence putting on weight) that they can go on a diet and after getting down to their required weight can then go back to what they were eating before.
All the fad diets being so miserable and shit probably doesn't help with this.
Fasting two days out of every seven. I mean what an astounding coincidence that what is medically the best thing for our bodies also fits in so nicely with our completely arbitrary use of a seven-day cycle for organising our lives. A cynic might suggest that the 5:2 ratio had been chosen for that reason alone, and not any medical or scientific reason at all.
Hollis
bloody furious
This account in the Times if free to read until midnight.
Inside the four-day hunt for Michael Mosley
Seems based on the amount of time he took to decend from the top of the ridge to the bay that he was already disorientated - should have taken 30 minutes - was taking him 2 hours.
Inside the four-day hunt for Michael Mosley
Seems based on the amount of time he took to decend from the top of the ridge to the bay that he was already disorientated - should have taken 30 minutes - was taking him 2 hours.
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
I'd never heard of him or the 5.2 diet until Mrs RD started following the 5.2 about ten years ago. She's always been slim, and already ate healthily for the most part, but she insisted, enticed by the purported long-term benefits on the digestive system and the body as a whole. However, I did notice that she looked exhausted on arrival home from work on the 2 days she ate nothing but a salad, and assumed that it was due to burning more calories than she was taking in-she has a fairly stressful job and quite a long drive to and from work in rush hour traffic.
When Covid came along I suggested that she drop the diet, as I suspected that the two days 'fasting' might lower her resistance to the virus. She listened, and has never had any desire to go back to it. She remains exactly the same healthy weight after 4 years of eating normally.
However, I think the man probably meant well, and he had what seems to have been a horrible, avoidable, premature death. RIP.
When Covid came along I suggested that she drop the diet, as I suspected that the two days 'fasting' might lower her resistance to the virus. She listened, and has never had any desire to go back to it. She remains exactly the same healthy weight after 4 years of eating normally.
However, I think the man probably meant well, and he had what seems to have been a horrible, avoidable, premature death. RIP.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
The time he took some psilocybin.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I did!
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I'm not particularly invested in him, don't like the diet industry and there was probably a strand of individualism in his solutions. But I did like the vibe about his Just One Thing stuff. Supported by science, quite human and upbeat. A way of feeling good about yourself without massive strategies and goals. Anyway, RIP.
Two more missing hikers as Greece hits record temperatures for the first half of June.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
acropolis shut due to early heatwave so yep, heat is bad, many people don't know especially if not from those climes
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
Respectfully, you're probably more of an outlier if you're a man who's been misdiagnosed (although no doubt there are many men who've been misdiagnosed, medicine often seems like more of a guessing game, guessing, ruling things out, guess again, etc).
Medical professionals misdiagnosing and/or gaslighting women is a known phemonenon. There's even a term for it, in relation to symptoms of heart attacks in women, 'Yentl Syndrome'.
Women are so much more likely to have their symptoms minimised or dismissed or to be misdiagnosed. Women are often written off as having mental health problems when they have physical medical conditions.
Personally speaking, I spent around a year writhing around in agony with painful periods, until my then boyfriend accompanied me to a GP appointment and told my GP that my pain and symptoms weren't 'normal'. I then got a referral to a gynae, laparoscopy with camera, diagnosis and treatment.
Often, doctors do not believe what a woman is telling them about her own body and symptoms and experiences, they have to have confirmation/opinions from the woman's male partner/family member before they will take it seriously.
Can you imagine going to your doctor and telling them 'I'm in a lot of pain and experiencing xyz symptoms' and they fob you off for months and months until your partner accompanies you and they tell your GP 'she's in a lot of pain, she's experiencing xyz symptoms' and all of a sudden, because a man has described your symptoms relating to your body, it means that there's something wrong that needs further medical investigations?
petee
no gods, no malarkey
I'm a senior citizen now and from a lifetime of direct experience, and of the experience of my friends, i can tell you that i am no outlier. That i even have to say so ... well, that tells you something.
and whether I'm an outlier or nor is irrelevant to the direct experience of misdiagnosis, as if the fact that I'm a guy mitigates the weeping misery i was in, the gendered insult i received from the woman MD ("tut-tut, the big strong man"), and the permanent nerve damage it caused.
but as has been proven many times, by Carvaged especially, Urban is a safe space for this sort of substitution of stereotype for reality.
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AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
That you're a man who's dismissing a woman who's telling you that women are more likely than men to have their medical symptoms dismissed or misdiagnosed ... well, that tells you something.
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
As a tribute the BBC are having Just One Thing Day today.
BBC pays tribute to Michael Mosley with Just One Thing Day across Radio and TV
Just One Thing Day will be rooted in Michael’s ethos to encourage healthy habits by introducing easy routines or simple swaps into daily life to improve health and wellbeing
www.bbc.com
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