transport minister misses train, throws wobbly

[belboid]

Greater Anglia have acknowledged that the train should have been held. Transport minister is right, urban75 hate mob is wrong. End of.

Well, they said that if - as claimed in a later tweet from thingybob, the minister - he had literally been at the door of the train, then they should have let him on, but we still only have his word for that, dont we?

 

[8ball]

My trip back to Pembrokeshire every Tuesday would usually pause outside Swansea, accompanied by a message from the guard stating that we "were awaiting a platform". Shortly afterwards, a train would depart from Swansea - a short 2-car DMU - and we would enter the platform and disembark.

Only my onward connection was that short 2-car DMU, and a number of us would form a deputation to the station office, where someone would resignedly arrange for a taxi to be available at Carmarthen to pick us up from the next (and last) arrival at that station to take those of us not wanting the boat train to Fishguard to complete our journeys.

So, no, it doesn't always happen, but I guess it's easier to enable it when you're not in a complex network where delaying one train has a potential knock-on effect across a wide area, as it would in a more built-up area, perhaps.

Funnily enough, at least one of these was the trip back to Pembrokeshire via that same route. Might even have been Swansea...

 

[brogdale]

Greater Anglia have acknowledged that the train should have been held. Transport minister is right, urban75 hate mob is wrong. End of.

That's not really what they've said, is it? Their response was far more nuanced.
The hate-mob fights back!

 

[neonwilderness]

This packed lunch made the train without its owner, and still the train wouldn't wait

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Poor George, he missed his train and lost his lunch

 

[andysays]

Greater Anglia have acknowledged that the train should have been held. Transport minister is right, urban75 hate mob is wrong. End of.

urban75 hate mob earlier

 

[Brixton Hatter]

Greater Anglia have acknowledged that the train should have been held. Transport minister is right, urban75 hate mob is wrong. End of.

It's almost as if Greater Anglia have a Government-issued train-operating contract they need to look after.

 

[ginger_syn]

Greater Anglia have acknowledged that the train should have been held. Transport minister is right, urban75 hate mob is wrong. End of.

It is never wrong to laugh at a government minister getting their nose put out of joint, metaphorically speaking.

 

[teuchter]

It's on public record that the train left between 15 and 60 seconds early.

Unfortunately though, people here want to side with the profit making rail company rather than the passengers, who they want to demonise as "stupid" for missing a train through no fault of their own. And then laugh at those passengers. Just like the Daily Mail told them to.

 

[ginger_syn]

Give it up mate, its funny stop being a poe faced misery guts and twitch that mouth into a smile.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

It's on public record that the train left between 15 and 60 seconds early.

Unfortunately though, people here want to side with the profit making rail company rather than the passengers, who they want to demonise as "stupid" for missing a train through no fault of their own. And then laugh at those passengers. Just like the Daily Mail told them to.

15 seconds early = on time

Stop trying to stir shit to get a worker in to trouble, bourgeois, gentryfying Tory arselicker.

 

[Dogsauce]

If it’s a different company operating the connecting train as is the situation in much of the country (although not this case), they’ll not usually wait because the incoming train is nothing to do with them and they’re not going to damage their punctuality figures due to some other firm’s tardiness. Pre-privatisation they’d usually wait. The tories made it this way on purpose so frankly fuck him.

 

[Sprocket.]

Yeah, welcome to the real world minister.

 

[klang]

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urban75 hate mob earlier

hate mop

 

[tonysingh]

Would have been funnier if he'd faceplanted whilst running for his train.

 

[Smangus]

It's on public record that the train left between 15 and 60 seconds early.

Fake noos no doubt. Public record Shame he didn't trip and go under the wheels.

 

[8ball]

If it’s a different company operating the connecting train as is the situation in much of the country (although not this case), they’ll not usually wait because the incoming train is nothing to do with them and they’re not going to damage their punctuality figures due to some other firm’s tardiness. Pre-privatisation they’d usually wait. The tories made it this way on purpose so frankly fuck him.

Hmmm. Aside from the ebola thing, that's not a bad argument.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Hmmm. Aside from the ebola thing, that's not a bad argument.

Doesn't even need to be different companies. If all the same company why should they have two lots of delay-repay to shell out when they could have just one and fuck off the transport minister in to the bargain?

 

[teuchter]

In this case, it *was* a different operator.

It's an oversimplification to say that privatisation has created a system where connections wait less often. The network is also very much busier than it was in BR days.

Anyway, none of that is relevant to whether it's OK to laugh at ordinary decent working people (quite possibly going to funerals), for missing a train when it wasn't their fault, and calling them stupid.

 

[Pickman's model]

In this case, it *was* a different operator.

It's an oversimplification to say that privatisation has created a system where connections wait less often. The network is also very much busier than it was in BR days.

Anyway, none of that is relevant to whether it's OK to laugh at ordinary decent working people (quite possibly going to funerals), for missing a train when it wasn't their fault, and calling them stupid.

yes you're right we oughtn't to laugh at ordinary hard-working tory ministers

 

[belboid]

(quite possibly going to funerals)

and, quite possibly, on their way to commit murder.

 

[Proper Tidy]

I wonder if you stood outside a crem with a clipboard what proportion of respondees would have arrived by train

 

[8ball]

I wonder if you stood outside a crem with a clipboard what proportion of respondees would have arrived by train

It had never occurred to me to think about that, I don't think I've ever taken a train to a funeral, but it seems the sort of thing that would happen a lot in English gangster films from the 1950s to 1970s...

 

[andysays]

It had never occurred to me to think about that, I don't think I've ever taken a train to a funeral, but it seems the sort of thing that would happen a lot in English gangster films from the 1950s to 1970s...

 

[existentialist]

In this case, it *was* a different operator.

It's an oversimplification to say that privatisation has created a system where connections wait less often. The network is also very much busier than it was in BR days.

Anyway, none of that is relevant to whether it's OK to laugh at ordinary decent working people (quite possibly going to funerals), for missing a train when it wasn't their fault, and calling them stupid.

But he's not an "ordinary decent person" - he's a fucking Tory transport minister.

 

[8ball]

Well, that’s one.

 

[brogdale]

This obsession with train passengers on their way to funerals is a little reminiscent of the Daily Mail (circa 1978/9) obsession with the unburied dead.

 

[8ball]

This obsession with train passengers on their way to funerals is a little reminiscent of the Daily Mail (circa 1978/9) obsession with the unburied dead.

Meanwhile a plane passenger on their way to Gatwick is quietly incubating that new ebola virus as the in-flight movie plays...

 

[Pickman's model]

This obsession with train passengers on their way to funerals is a little reminiscent of the Daily Mail (circa 1978/9) obsession with the unburied dead.

I wonder whether any of the passengers who missed the connection were on their way to, or returning from, a dogging hot-spot. Or on their way to a funeral which had occurred due to death at a dogging hot-spot.

 

[ginger_syn]

In this case, it *was* a different operator.

It's an oversimplification to say that privatisation has created a system where connections wait less often. The network is also very much busier than it was in BR days.

Anyway, none of that is relevant to whether it's OK to laugh at ordinary decent working people (quite possibly going to funerals), for missing a train when it wasn't their fault, and calling them stupid.

Nobodys laughing at ordinary people, its the tory minister we are laughing at and to be honest its just a satisfied smirk for me at this point, and you do know that the spurious reason for people travelling that you are making up are adding to my enjoyment of this.
I look forward to your next heart string tugging invention.

 

[brogdale]

I wonder whether any of the passengers who missed the connection were on their way to, or returning from, a dogging hot-spot. Or on their way to a funeral which had occurred due to death at a dogging hot-spot.

Side bar of shame stylee