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nino_savatte
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Grandma: "Provide a link of Arabs going into kindergartens and killing Jews.": What age do children in your nation attend "kindergarten?" We start school at age 3 but in the West, to my knowledge it is age 5 and 6. I offered you 3 examples of just that. What is your problem? That the targets did not posses the name "Kindergarten" in their title? Kingergarteners were killed. As I suspected, you could not give one iota about truth and facts and all about simply making argumentive circles and are worse than the posters with odeological investments. At least their manipulations are based on an ultimate goal, etc. Your nonsense is just about creating friction.
CHILDREN WERE TARGETTED, including 6 year olds. 6 YEAR OLDS DIED.
"Offer proof of brains on rifles...": I suggest you REVISIT the issue of Sumar Kuntar, the Lebanese Druse just released from Israel for that VERY act,, as part of the heinous "Hezbollah Prisoner Exchange" which is a joke in of itself in that the only "prisoners" returned to Israel for that baby killer (and others) were 2 dead Israelis.
"Show a link that says children aged 6 were attcked and in a kindergarten.": Again you play games. You offered not the 3 examples in question but the entire source I offered you and in doing that posted your own requested info. Avivim? 6 year old? Because it was a bus on the way to drop them off in their school instead of their having been tortured and killed while already in school would only be of consequence to a fool. the point is their age and the attack. You called foul, you even reposted the proof. To then make issue with it because it was a kindergarten pupil NOT in school but on a school bus going to school shows your aims for what they are.
If you wish to continue to hide behind a step and shuffle, go right ahead but I believe just about every halfway intelligent person will see right through you.
Again: NINE KIDS AGED SIX TO NINE KILLED, 19 CRIPPLED FOR LIFE (not to mention 3 dead adults of course). Niiiiice. Argue your point again.
While you aruge it remember another of the incidents mentioned in the source you reposted, the Ma'alot Massacarre. IN A SCHOOL, SCHOOL KIDS KILLEd. But wait! Grandma will cry foul because THOSE KIDS were in their mid teens and not in kindergarten. Your arguments reveal alot about you. Pretty sad.
"No mention of brains on rifle butts.": As I told you earlier, the first time you reintroduced this subject, the subject who committed the atrocity was the subject of a thread just a few weeks ago. I realise your memory might not be up to the task but had given you the benefit of the doubt. The referenced event was central to his release since it was repeated over and over all over the world when complaining of his release or just reporting it. That the child was 4 will probably cause you ro again make semi-retarded complaints conerning her age. Perhaps English People think 4 year olds are adolescents. It would not suprise me in the least were you to make such a non-sensical claim.
TOOOO PRECIOUS, Grandma tells us that he does not doubt that children have been killed on both sides of this conflict but takes issue with Rachamim's "twisting of words to suit his needs." Oh yeah, like labeling 6 year olds as kindergarten pupils and 4 year olds as todllers. Got it, thankls for the clarification.
For the record, kids HAVE been killed by both sides but ONLY ONE SIDE has killed them purposefully: THE ARABS.
CHILDREN WERE TARGETTED, including 6 year olds. 6 YEAR OLDS DIED.
"Offer proof of brains on rifles...": I suggest you REVISIT the issue of Sumar Kuntar, the Lebanese Druse just released from Israel for that VERY act,, as part of the heinous "Hezbollah Prisoner Exchange" which is a joke in of itself in that the only "prisoners" returned to Israel for that baby killer (and others) were 2 dead Israelis.
"Show a link that says children aged 6 were attcked and in a kindergarten.": Again you play games. You offered not the 3 examples in question but the entire source I offered you and in doing that posted your own requested info. Avivim? 6 year old? Because it was a bus on the way to drop them off in their school instead of their having been tortured and killed while already in school would only be of consequence to a fool. the point is their age and the attack. You called foul, you even reposted the proof. To then make issue with it because it was a kindergarten pupil NOT in school but on a school bus going to school shows your aims for what they are.
If you wish to continue to hide behind a step and shuffle, go right ahead but I believe just about every halfway intelligent person will see right through you.
Again: NINE KIDS AGED SIX TO NINE KILLED, 19 CRIPPLED FOR LIFE (not to mention 3 dead adults of course). Niiiiice. Argue your point again.
While you aruge it remember another of the incidents mentioned in the source you reposted, the Ma'alot Massacarre. IN A SCHOOL, SCHOOL KIDS KILLEd. But wait! Grandma will cry foul because THOSE KIDS were in their mid teens and not in kindergarten. Your arguments reveal alot about you. Pretty sad.
"No mention of brains on rifle butts.": As I told you earlier, the first time you reintroduced this subject, the subject who committed the atrocity was the subject of a thread just a few weeks ago. I realise your memory might not be up to the task but had given you the benefit of the doubt. The referenced event was central to his release since it was repeated over and over all over the world when complaining of his release or just reporting it. That the child was 4 will probably cause you ro again make semi-retarded complaints conerning her age. Perhaps English People think 4 year olds are adolescents. It would not suprise me in the least were you to make such a non-sensical claim.
TOOOO PRECIOUS, Grandma tells us that he does not doubt that children have been killed on both sides of this conflict but takes issue with Rachamim's "twisting of words to suit his needs." Oh yeah, like labeling 6 year olds as kindergarten pupils and 4 year olds as todllers. Got it, thankls for the clarification.
For the record, kids HAVE been killed by both sides but ONLY ONE SIDE has killed them purposefully: THE ARABS.
Nino: "What does 'regree' mean?": REGRESS> Thanks for caring love!
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
You typed it, chum.
Grandma Death
Reconfiguring & Reconstructing
Look its quite simple. You claimed within that link there was evidence of your claim.....
There isn't ANYTHING in that link that suggests this was so.
So when your ready I'm all ears-where is the proof of the above?
It COULD be were the subject matter not so deadly serious. I take child killing very seriously. Grandma sadly sees it as just another vehchle to engage me in anger and that is also sad.
Of course, taking something seriously involves not throwing it around as an allegation without evidence.
Or for actual humans involved in actual discussion of actual beliefs, it does. For paid shills it doesn't matter - throwing allegations around is just part of the job.
So?
Or for actual humans involved in actual discussion of actual beliefs, it does. For paid shills it doesn't matter - throwing allegations around is just part of the job.
So?
Grandma Death
Reconfiguring & Reconstructing
Yep so do I-which is why when discussing the subject its important not to over state your case or indeed lie as is pretty apparent. Doing so would make one appear to be using such a serious issue as a vehicle for ones own propaganda/agenda.
Gradnma:3 takes place by a single organisation, PLO, ONLY ATTACKED CIVIlANS and in 3 opa murdered kindergarten aged childeen. Yoiur entire argurement is that they were not murdered in a kindergarten.
Some were killed on their own schhol bus. Others WERE attacked in their achool buy any of the kindergarten Jews in that poor bldg. ran in terror and were slaughtered by PLO gunmen while noone did anythunbg toi even try and stop these heinous acttions. Your current argument is completely senseless. To you, all you care about is that none of the killings took place right aware in the Kindergardent but since none did, only in yhr kindergarten bus and in adjoining rooms of the kindergarten it will have to be judged faslse/ I think you need to really reavaluate yourself but from what ever reason you do not sem capable
Were Kindergartners killed in 2 0f the 3 Attacks? It iS A SIMPLE QUESTION.
Did the PLO kill all school age age kids in the including Kindergartners?
Pretty simply issue to consider but take as long a time as you need.
Some were killed on their own schhol bus. Others WERE attacked in their achool buy any of the kindergarten Jews in that poor bldg. ran in terror and were slaughtered by PLO gunmen while noone did anythunbg toi even try and stop these heinous acttions. Your current argument is completely senseless. To you, all you care about is that none of the killings took place right aware in the Kindergardent but since none did, only in yhr kindergarten bus and in adjoining rooms of the kindergarten it will have to be judged faslse/ I think you need to really reavaluate yourself but from what ever reason you do not sem capable
Were Kindergartners killed in 2 0f the 3 Attacks? It iS A SIMPLE QUESTION.
Did the PLO kill all school age age kids in the including Kindergartners?
Pretty simply issue to consider but take as long a time as you need.
Grandma Death
Reconfiguring & Reconstructing
Not at all. My argument is that you:
- Made a very specific claim.
- Provided a link to prove that claim stating quite clearly the evidence is contained within that link.
- That link does not back up your very specific claim.
Which leads me to believe that you seem intent on exaggerating and making over inflated claims to bolster your case. That is despicable considering the subject matter to hand.
Grandma: While you, as always, are certainly freely entitled to your own opinion, I am sure most RATIONAL adults will see it just a tad bit differently than you. Since you are all for EXACTNESS, might you care to offer up some of your own? Tell us? what is your opinion on the 3 attacks I highlighted, the 3 that targetted and killed young Israeli children of Kindergarten age? Hope that clarifies the issue just a tad bit and removes some of the personaliy you insist on inserting in EVERYTHING.
Grandma Death
Reconfiguring & Reconstructing
Despicable and Ive said it in the past on several occasions-I know your memory is somewhat lacking but do try keeping up.
Now when are you going to provide me with a link that not only shows 'terrorists' walking into kindergartens and killing 6 year olds' as well as this 'toddlers brains on rifle butts' incident you stated quite clearly was contained within that link.
When you're ready. Thanks.
Gradnma: "Despicable.": Glad to see a shred of humanity now and then...well at least now.
"Provide a link about terrorists walking into kindergartens.": We have been through this 2 or 3 times. Move on already.
"Link showing toddler's brains on rifle butts.": Again, we have been through that already. I will give you much, much more tha I ever should. Given your regularity in this forum one would imagine you would have remembered Israel's recent exchange with Hezbollah where we gained two bodies of murdered soldiers and they got, among other things, the vile piece of shi$ named Sameer Kuntar. Google the name and have fun.
"Provide a link about terrorists walking into kindergartens.": We have been through this 2 or 3 times. Move on already.
"Link showing toddler's brains on rifle butts.": Again, we have been through that already. I will give you much, much more tha I ever should. Given your regularity in this forum one would imagine you would have remembered Israel's recent exchange with Hezbollah where we gained two bodies of murdered soldiers and they got, among other things, the vile piece of shi$ named Sameer Kuntar. Google the name and have fun.
Grandma Death
Reconfiguring & Reconstructing
I know we've been through this and still, even now-you haven't provided the evidence. You've got yourself stuck in this ridiculous situation where your arguing the toss about their age and how that means they must be kindergarten age. Infact nobody is doubting some of these kids are of kindergarten age-however what is being disputed is that there is nothing in that link which suggests 'terrorists' walked into a kindergarten and killed 6 year olds-which is, in case you missed it, your original claim.
So will you now accept that within the link you provided there is NO evidence to back up your claim?
Again you claimed there was evidence of that within the link. There isn't.
Latest Games With Grandma...
Instead of just using his Google,, for all of 3.5 seconds, he instead makes Rachamim jump through even more hoops to reiterate an event that was the subject of at least one thread already:
"Sameer Koontahr took the stock of his atoumatic rifle and smahed it repeatedly against the skull of a 4 year old girl, whose head was laying on a flat roick, at his direction. He hasd already made the poor girl witness the xcold blooded killing of her father and seen her mum disappear as well (to be found later with her amothered infant on her breast).
lebop.blogspot.com/2006/07/chatting-with-Israelis-.html
which probably will not parse without the obligatory prefix of "www" in the url, and yet that is the utrl, type it in manually...
or...
Alterantively you may type it just so: www.lebop.blogspot.com/2006/07/chatting-with-Israelis.html
It will show as afailed hit and never the less allow you to see the highlighted entry, the target, underneat so either way there you are "GRANDMA," your proof on a toddler's brains being torn out by an Arab "Freedom Fighter."
We will now see your apology? An Aplogy for doubting my veracity? And an apology for making me jump through obvious hoops that you could have done yourself in less than 5 seconbds? Of course not, much better to moan and whine.
INTEGRITY is becoming an endangered species I am afraid to say...
Instead of just using his Google,, for all of 3.5 seconds, he instead makes Rachamim jump through even more hoops to reiterate an event that was the subject of at least one thread already:
"Sameer Koontahr took the stock of his atoumatic rifle and smahed it repeatedly against the skull of a 4 year old girl, whose head was laying on a flat roick, at his direction. He hasd already made the poor girl witness the xcold blooded killing of her father and seen her mum disappear as well (to be found later with her amothered infant on her breast).
lebop.blogspot.com/2006/07/chatting-with-Israelis-.html
which probably will not parse without the obligatory prefix of "www" in the url, and yet that is the utrl, type it in manually...
or...
Alterantively you may type it just so: www.lebop.blogspot.com/2006/07/chatting-with-Israelis.html
It will show as afailed hit and never the less allow you to see the highlighted entry, the target, underneat so either way there you are "GRANDMA," your proof on a toddler's brains being torn out by an Arab "Freedom Fighter."
We will now see your apology? An Aplogy for doubting my veracity? And an apology for making me jump through obvious hoops that you could have done yourself in less than 5 seconbds? Of course not, much better to moan and whine.
INTEGRITY is becoming an endangered species I am afraid to say...
Perhaps a better connection since both forms of that previous url are ysteriosly not connecting...
www.camera.org/index.asp?x-context=7&x_issue=11&x_article=1507
The direct link though has trasnpired, so take the above url, and when arriving utilise the Search Engine on site and type in his name transliterated as such: samir kuntar
Have fun and do not forget those apologies, your integrity is waiting...
www.camera.org/index.asp?x-context=7&x_issue=11&x_article=1507
The direct link though has trasnpired, so take the above url, and when arriving utilise the Search Engine on site and type in his name transliterated as such: samir kuntar
Have fun and do not forget those apologies, your integrity is waiting...
Grandma Death
Reconfiguring & Reconstructing
Apologise? Ive always doubted your veracity from day one-your persistent refusal to source any facts you state kinda gives the game away.
As for this link. For your information Ive read up on this person in question-Ive duly noted that he strongly denied the allegations that he bashed in the brains of a toddler. But thats by the by. I never for one minute disputed the 'facts' about Sameer Koontahr. Try reading back through this thread again.
Fact remains you claimed within that link there was evidence to back up this claim and your other claim. There wasn't.
So no you have about as much chance of me apologising as you have learning to use the quote button; stop misquoting posters; failing to back up your claims etc etc
Grandma: Reread the thread to see where Rachamim said he had links to prove Koontahr bashed in a toddler's brains with his rifle butt?": I already did, times over. Then you try to toss some ambiguity into the mix by adding, worthlessly in light of a mumtitude of forensics reports and eyewitness accounts, that Koontahr claims to have never basked the todller! PErfect and oh so Grandma. Is it any wonder that I tired long ago of trying oblige you of anything?
You ask for links to items you claim to have known long ago, and then still, for argumentiveness insinuate that Koontahr was framed by Israel. Too precious.. I suppose you imagine that the world is even half as simple as you, is that it?
HE DID IT. You say you knew this and yet asked for a link. I PROIVDED NOT ONE BUT TWO. Still you find fault. Is there really anything more that needs to be said. I am absolutely sure that any thinking person can see this farce for what it is.
OH wai!!!! NOW you say your whole tirade here has been your rquest for "proof" of the episode...EVEN THOUGH you state yourself, quite freely, that you are not doubting the official account. So then, WHICH IS IT?
IF you are not questioining the event;s veracity, why ask me for a source?!? Nooooo, you NEVER play games at the expense of the forum, do you?
You ask for links to items you claim to have known long ago, and then still, for argumentiveness insinuate that Koontahr was framed by Israel. Too precious.. I suppose you imagine that the world is even half as simple as you, is that it?
HE DID IT. You say you knew this and yet asked for a link. I PROIVDED NOT ONE BUT TWO. Still you find fault. Is there really anything more that needs to be said. I am absolutely sure that any thinking person can see this farce for what it is.
OH wai!!!! NOW you say your whole tirade here has been your rquest for "proof" of the episode...EVEN THOUGH you state yourself, quite freely, that you are not doubting the official account. So then, WHICH IS IT?
IF you are not questioining the event;s veracity, why ask me for a source?!? Nooooo, you NEVER play games at the expense of the forum, do you?
Grandma Death
Reconfiguring & Reconstructing
Good. Then you'll know I asked you for evidence to back up this claim:
You provided that evidence via link-and guess what there wasn't evidence contained with that link.
This is not the first time we've been here I hasten to add.
I remember the same fiasco when I asked you to provide evidence that the ISM leadership admitted to doctoring photos of Rachel Corry. You provided me with two possibly three links none of which contained proof of your claim.
Face facts Rach-you often make claims you cannot qualify.
Grandma: Yet only you, Garfield, and Nino can agree on that. I am soooooo hurt. Better get some therapy and all, I really do not know how I will manage to carry on. You want to play word games, fine, carry on, while rational adults learn about the world.
Grandma Death
Reconfiguring & Reconstructing
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
What the fuck are you talking about, you gibbering fool?
Grandma: Yes, I REALLY believe that, but thanks for caring enough to ask.
Nino: Are you not the one who runs to the Mods whining anytime someone spells a word wrong? Then you have the audacity to utter such obscene nonsense? Oh Nino, you crush me! I will have to talk to the nanny again!
P.S.: Is "gibbering" an actual word? Sounds like a noise a monkey would make or something.
Nino: Are you not the one who runs to the Mods whining anytime someone spells a word wrong? Then you have the audacity to utter such obscene nonsense? Oh Nino, you crush me! I will have to talk to the nanny again!
P.S.: Is "gibbering" an actual word? Sounds like a noise a monkey would make or something.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
You really have lost the plot, haven't you? What is so "obscene" about "What the fuck are you talking about, you gibbering fool"? Nothing and your faux over-sensitivity doesn't convince.
Grandma Death
Reconfiguring & Reconstructing
My god you really are that deluded.
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
Yes. For heaven's sake, get someone to install google on your computer. And good yontif.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Or a lie detector.
rach was recently banned for a short term for making up a 2nd log-in under a fictitious persona to back up what rach was saying and to attack other posters.
Such is the purity, honesty and integrity of the spokesman for the israeli military that he has no qualms about attempting subterfuge, deceit and utter disrespect to the people he pretends to converse with.
Rach18, is a compulsive Liar and Hypocrite.
Rach18, is a compulsive Liar and Hypocrite, that much I've no doubt.
But to me at least, the question I'd like to ask is, whether this is done deliberately or not?
(...and this is not done just on Urban but several other websites! ... then the poor... poor people he is supposedly supporting ...)
Looking at his posts, and put your hand up if you've read them all ??
anyone done any more than just scan over the bullshit and lies that dickhead writes?
I don't read any of his posts at all, I skip over every single word of every single post. (Besides there's usually enough quoted to get the gist)
I read a post of his once and killed everyone in my street ! ..... long street too! and it wasn't just your normal kill ...kill ...kill ... it was maim and debone and cut all their hair off, all the worst stuff you could ever imagine)
Thing is you know the posts are all just going to be full of Lies, misrepresentations and literal rubbish. That's all he writes, that's all he has ever written and as age (and the damage that drugs can do) it will get worse, lordy. I almost feel sorry for his family....and the next street.
People (clever ones) could write a psychological Thesis on this clown (and not even have to wait till he slips into delusions - yes, I know, a small slip)
( his maladroit posts, unsupported "canards" twisting posters words around so they mean something entirely different, prevaricating, his mendacity, truculence, constant non-sequiturs ... etc etc etc ... a twisted and deluded mind.
BUT, the thing is for me ...whether he is a paid shill or just a deluded fool spreading propaganda at his own behest, the question I ask is ...
Does this prick realise how much damage he is doing to the cause he bleats on about for hours each day??
Does he even know that what he writes, is turning people against the very thing he believes to be Gods will ?
This clown, with his constant lying and Bullshit doesn't even realise that he is turning people OFF. People that may have had some sympathy for the Jewish population in Israel.
If he is a real person and believes the rubbish he writes, then he should find proper medical care....if not, then he's a prick and I've spent more time on this worthless pubic hair that he deserves.
Sorry for the rant, while I am a supporter of Free speech, when certain people just take over and don't give anyone else any room to write, then give them chances to give other people a say and if they don't then shut them out.
Rach18, is a compulsive Liar and Hypocrite, that much I've no doubt.
But to me at least, the question I'd like to ask is, whether this is done deliberately or not?
(...and this is not done just on Urban but several other websites! ... then the poor... poor people he is supposedly supporting ...)
Looking at his posts, and put your hand up if you've read them all ??
anyone done any more than just scan over the bullshit and lies that dickhead writes? I don't read any of his posts at all, I skip over every single word of every single post. (Besides there's usually enough quoted to get the gist)
I read a post of his once and killed everyone in my street ! ..... long street too! and it wasn't just your normal kill ...kill ...kill ... it was maim and debone and cut all their hair off, all the worst stuff you could ever imagine)
Thing is you know the posts are all just going to be full of Lies, misrepresentations and literal rubbish. That's all he writes, that's all he has ever written and as age (and the damage that drugs can do) it will get worse, lordy. I almost feel sorry for his family....and the next street.
People (clever ones) could write a psychological Thesis on this clown (and not even have to wait till he slips into delusions - yes, I know, a small slip)
( his maladroit posts, unsupported "canards" twisting posters words around so they mean something entirely different, prevaricating, his mendacity, truculence, constant non-sequiturs ... etc etc etc ... a twisted and deluded mind.
BUT, the thing is for me ...whether he is a paid shill or just a deluded fool spreading propaganda at his own behest, the question I ask is ...
Does this prick realise how much damage he is doing to the cause he bleats on about for hours each day??
Does he even know that what he writes, is turning people against the very thing he believes to be Gods will ?
This clown, with his constant lying and Bullshit doesn't even realise that he is turning people OFF. People that may have had some sympathy for the Jewish population in Israel.
If he is a real person and believes the rubbish he writes, then he should find proper medical care....if not, then he's a prick and I've spent more time on this worthless pubic hair that he deserves.
Sorry for the rant, while I am a supporter of Free speech, when certain people just take over and don't give anyone else any room to write, then give them chances to give other people a say and if they don't then shut them out.
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