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wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
french embassy also advising run for your lives if you're lebanon, all fucked up :/
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
Washington has approved a further 20 billion dollar arms supply to Israel, whilst today US forces report sinking 2 houthi vessels
Absolutely fuck all chance of Israel being held to account for anything it does and just continued support from USA
Will there eventually be a real split between USA and the EU over the conflict with EU countries deploying real sanctions?, Germany is the main problem.
Absolutely fuck all chance of Israel being held to account for anything it does and just continued support from USA
Will there eventually be a real split between USA and the EU over the conflict with EU countries deploying real sanctions?, Germany is the main problem.
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
Sounds like Iran is going to delay till after Israel's demands which will basically be full surrender of Hamas with no real offer of scaling down its subjugation of the Palestinians bring talks to stalemate.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Maybe you could rearrange those words into a meaningful sentence
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Like making a Bowie song?
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
Or a William Burroughs cut-up? I only ever really 'got' his cut-up trilogy when reading it while off my tits on ganja.
/ Sorry, thread derail /
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
Go on use your powers of inane pedantry and do it for me
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Shows your abject impotence you have to turn to 'that cunt pickman' to get your posts to make sense.
teqniq
DisMembered
Coincidence? Possible but unlikely imo (a lot of the stolen data has been published on Telegram):
After Iran Steals Sensitive Israeli Data, Israel Tries to Censor the Internet
www.aljazeera.com
After Iran Steals Sensitive Israeli Data, Israel Tries to Censor the Internet
Telegram CEO Pavel Durov’s detention extended following arrest in France
Russia’s embassy in France demands consular access to the 39-year-old Franco-Russian billionaire.
teqniq
DisMembered
Interesting interview with Ori Goldberg on Iran and Hezbollah:
www.972mag.com
What Israelis don’t want to hear about Iran and Hezbollah
For years, Israeli expert Ori Goldberg has challenged commonly-held beliefs about the Islamic Republic and its allies. Will anyone listen?
www.972mag.com
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I'd expect any military organisation which had suffered the number of assassinations over the years as hezbollah would be a) largely decentralised rather than rigidly hierarchical, and b) have a well prepared succession plan for senior leaders. While the zionists have wiped put some really important people, the people they knew, who knows what the people who step into their shoes will be like. For me its a really weird calculation as intelligence assessments of hezbollah are now less likely to be accurate as many known factors have been taken off the table
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
TBF you think they would have learned about how effective targeted assassinations are by observing by how much Hamas was degraded when they killed Yasin (and various people who happened to be stood nearby).
teqniq
DisMembered
Worth a read. Some people in Hezbollah or supportive of them are concerned that Iran is leaving them to fend for themselves (trans: completely deserting them when expedient):
www.ft.com
if you can't read the article here is an archived version:
Iran races to soothe Hizbollah fears of being abandoned
Iran races to allay Hizbollah fears
Tehran’s restraint in the face of increasingly aggressive Israeli operations has unsettled Lebanese militant group
if you can't read the article here is an archived version:
Iran races to soothe Hizbollah fears of being abandoned
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
Reading between those lines... "It was all fun and games while our guys were firing missiles into Israel and calling for its destruction, but when it starts punching back then oh! Suddenly the destruction of Israel is bad for business, the locals can deal with the blowback and we'll negotiate over their corpses."
Inspirational stuff from Iran
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Hmm teqniq I don't really go along with the idea that the US is a larger Israel on the face of it tbh and think that idea needs a bit of explanation as it ends up sounding a bit too similar to ZOG type conspiracies tbh. I don't really know anything about this guy or what he's getting at though, so I'm willing to hear it out but at the moment it seems like an edgy x/twitter soundbite without further details
teqniq
DisMembered
Absolutely fair enough and I've put it up here to see what other people think tbh. One has to wonder though why the US keeps unremittingly suppling Israel with armaments and money when they could have pulled the plug on all this death and destruction months ago.Hmm teqniq I don't really go along with the idea that the US is a larger Israel on the face of it tbh and think that idea needs a bit of explanation as it ends up sounding a bit too similar to ZOG type conspiracies tbh. I don't really know anything about this guy or what he's getting at though, so I'm willing to hear it out but at the moment it seems like an edgy x/twitter soundbite without further details
Meanwhile this looks like blowback in Iraq:
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Just a guess but I'm thinking it probably has something to do with AIPAC/Dershowitz type Democrats, and the huge number of Christians who think that supporting Israel will bring about the end of the world - there is also an election coming up and I am guessing that the US government don't want to make any decisions re Israel, are counting on the fact that anyone pro Gaza will just hold their nose in November, whereas the who support zionism/Netanyahu but might be persuaded not to vote Trump because of his stance on abortion, or being rude once about Ted Cruz's Dad once, etc might be seen as winnable ... I dunno though. However as with Starmer's labour, the existence of these groups in reality might be debatable ... but it might not stop the Dems acting as if they're not though.
I have no fucking idea though and I'm not speaking from any authority...it's just a guess
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
I agree with some of this but not all of it - the heavy bombs for example, there is nothing to say that those used werent part of the original stockpiles that they (the IDF) had kept for this purpose. I also think its more likely that the US government was mugged off by the Israelis, given that we know this has happened multiple times since October 7th (Biden's attempt at a regional tour, which was cancelled as the result of the al-Ahli hospital bombing being the first). The US government is clearly not an impartial broker in those circumstances either of course, but I think if they were actively complicit in everything then this war would look rather different than it does.
teqniq
DisMembered
Israel says it has imposed a military blockade on Lebanon:
www.jewishpress.com
Below is the relevant part of the above linked article, the rest talks about the killing of Nasrallah
Wrt to the land border crossings and the attacks on bulldozers. I saw a vid a couple of days ago of a massive crater in a road, this probably explains why.
Israel Blockades Lebanon After Eliminating Nasrallah, Hezbollah High Command
An Iranian cargo plane was advised Saturday morning not to land in Beirut and Iranian ships may also be stopped off the coast of Lebanon. Civilian movement will be allowed,
www.jewishpress.com
Below is the relevant part of the above linked article, the rest talks about the killing of Nasrallah
Wrt to the land border crossings and the attacks on bulldozers. I saw a vid a couple of days ago of a massive crater in a road, this probably explains why.
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