JudithB
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Shocked / not shockedwhen women on these boards are frequently asked to share intimate, traumatic descriptions to explain things to men who either can't or won't understand.
Shocked / not shockedwhen women on these boards are frequently asked to share intimate, traumatic descriptions to explain things to men who either can't or won't understand.
Interesting. Very interestingIt makes me wonder which comes first - whether men get into those positions and become drunk on the power they have or if they deliberately seek power in order to exploit and abuse women
That’s exactly the point I made earlier which was completely ignored. [emoji1]
https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/male-experiences-of-patriarchy.364927/And therein is a whole different thread?
I love Jessicavery intersting blog
very relevant here.
The mental load?Yes but what! Feminism and the passive aggression of leaving all the brain work of the household to women, or Feminism and the lack of expectations on men and boys to grow up, or Feminism and the phenomenon of The Scold...?
Going in now...wish me luckhttps://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/male-experiences-of-patriarchy.364927/
This might be of some interest if you haven't seen it before. Some candour as well as the usual nonsense.
The mental load?
I don't know if I have to time to get over the woke cookies being handed around on this thread tbh. I perhaps should read it to the end to see if they actually stop praising themselves and start thinking about outside of their self conceived praiseworthy lifestyles.Going in now...wish me luck
I think perhaps cutting people a bit of slack would be helpful too. It's hard to get men thinking or posting on this stuff in the first place so for some it might not be coming easy.I don't know if I have to time to get over the woke cookies being handed around on this thread tbh. I perhaps should read it to the end to see if they actually stop praising themselves and start thinking about outside of their self conceived praiseworthy lifestyles.
https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/male-experiences-of-patriarchy.364927/page-2
I will persevere. It's not people I'm going to be cutting slack, it's men.I think perhaps cutting people a bit of slack would be helpful too. It's hard to get men thi...nking or posting on this stuff in the first place so for some it might not be coming easy.
No, I meant everyone. You're pretty new here so you might not know the "convention" in the Health Relationships and Sexuality forum - colloquially "Knobbing and Sobbing" - is to keep it polite, understanding and not too judgemental, different to a lot of the other forums on Urban.I will persevere. It's not people I'm going to be cutting slack, it's men.
I will persevere. It's not people I'm going to be cutting slack, it's men.
Interesting that it generally has links with Naziism too. People who grope women aren't very nice, it turns out. If only someone had mentioned itI read this this morning (you can read it without signing up, but caution, it’s a pretty grim read) https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...led-by-male-supremacy/?utm_term=.d9b08de3ed7b
What struck me is that for decades women had been raising red flags about this guy, and had not been heard. *Decades*. And that meant he was free to go on and kill.
Staggering number of Islamic terrorists are violent to women too, I read somewhere. Seems to me even if you don’t care about women per se, you should care about violent or predatory behaviour towards them as it is so often the harbinger of something elseInteresting that it generally has links with Naziism too. People who grope women aren't very nice, it turns out. If only someone had mentioned it
I think I will stay out of knobbing and sobbing as I do not know any of you well enough. I am also rather blunt on occasionNo, I meant everyone. You're pretty new here so you might not know the "convention" in the Health Relationships and Sexuality forum - colloquially "Knobbing and Sobbing" - is to keep it polite, understanding and not too judgemental, different to a lot of the other forums on Urban.
We all are. K&S just gets less.... terrifyingI think I will stay out of knobbing and sobbing as I do not know any of you well enough. I am also rather blunt on occasion
I wonder if that is the battle women chose to fight/combat their own silencing or the only time it was possible?I was fascinated by her descriptions of how women combated silencing in order to have an effective role in official peace-building activities (rather than unseen, domestic and community level activities).
Well yeah, that’s true enoughI think they identified a moment in history and their strategy (including getting women elected) worked out well enough. We rarely hear about opportunities missed or the detail of battles lost - especially on Desert Island Discs.
I probably don't want humourless feminist on my charge sheet. These are all older men, they honestly wouldn't get it.Send it on to HR
I have a friend in a not dissimilar position at the moment but she’s fucked off with years of turning the other cheek and actually is going to make a complaintI probably don't want humourless feminist on my charge sheet. These are all older men, they honestly wouldn't get it.