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The Left Failing Young Men (and how to reclaim the Left from liberals)

Some people's idea of The Far Left is a caricature of Stalinism. No awareness or understanding of a vast history of working class radicalism. So they think they're being awfully clever and devilishly funny by adopting a persona that fits their preconceived idea of what people on the left are like. Do some surface level research and try and start some shit.
The Western Left pretty much assumes that position of actual leftism being something on an equal level with Stalin, Mao, Juche, etc. But what can you really do when the CIA influences people's minds into thinking that leftism is when "American liberal values" and anything against American liberalism is "reactionary NazBol Juche-Stalinist-Trumpist ideology". The CIA might have been partially involved in strengthening the liberal leftism of the "New Left" in order to discourage actual socialism and communism from spreading into the USA and instead prevent any form of "class consciousness" by making people dismiss it as "bigoted, fascist, anti-human rights, etc.".

Besides the partial-backing from CIA, we see how prominent Western Leftists in 20th and 21st century, say for only a few exceptional (Marx, Engels, Castro, Guevara) have been establishing this pro-imperialist narrative while claiming to fight for social justice and there is a list of plentiful.

  • Herbert Marcuse (member of the pseudo-Marxist "Frankfurt Academia" which dismisses class struggle in favor of "sexual liberation", father of the New Left)
  • Noam Chomsky (anarchist who profoundly denied the genocide in Srebrenica "because it did not fill the criteria")
  • Judith Butler (infamous female bourgeois idealist who pioneered the "queer theory")
  • Michel Foucault (French postmodernist and anti-Marxist)
  • Eduard Bernstein (Member of SPD, profound 19th-century revisionist who rejected revolutionary aspect of Marxism and favored reformism)
 
They've slipped up with colloquialisms that a non-native English speaker, or someone who doesn't live in UK, would doubtfully use.

To up their game they should probably run their Chat GPT output through Google translate to German or Spanish and then run that back to English. Would rub off some of the English as a first language markers that are creeping in.
 
I like how U75 goes into full-on conspiracy theory about me using "ChatGPT" to explain my arguments. Yet I thought I was the one they'd assume that I be wearin' me a tinfoil hat.
 
The Western Left pretty much assumes that position of actual leftism being something on an equal level with Stalin, Mao, Juche, etc. But what can you really do when the CIA influences people's minds into thinking that leftism is when "American liberal values" and anything against American liberalism is "reactionary NazBol Juche-Stalinist-Trumpist ideology". The CIA might have been partially involved in strengthening the liberal leftism of the "New Left" in order to discourage actual socialism and communism from spreading into the USA and instead prevent any form of "class consciousness" by making people dismiss it as "bigoted, fascist, anti-human rights, etc.".

Besides the partial-backing from CIA, we see how prominent Western Leftists in 20th and 21st century, say for only a few exceptional (Marx, Engels, Castro, Guevara) have been establishing this pro-imperialist narrative while claiming to fight for social justice and there is a list of plentiful.

  • Herbert Marcuse (member of the pseudo-Marxist "Frankfurt Academia" which dismisses class struggle in favor of "sexual liberation", father of the New Left)
  • Noam Chomsky (anarchist who profoundly denied the genocide in Srebrenica "because it did not fill the criteria")
  • Judith Butler (infamous female bourgeois idealist who pioneered the "queer theory")
  • Michel Foucault (French postmodernist and anti-Marxist)
  • Eduard Bernstein (Member of SPD, profound 19th-century revisionist who rejected revolutionary aspect of Marxism and favored reformism)
The New Left in the United States, Canada and Western Europe, also included a new cohort of young Marxist-Leninist revolutionaries emerging in the 1950s and 60s. Representative of the various anti-revisionist tendencies that developed in reaction to the Khrushchev government in the USSR. Hoxhaism and the increasing popularity of China, and Marxism-Leninism Mao Tse-tung Thought, in becoming the new guiding politics in a period of national liberation struggles that were happening throughout what was once called the 'third world.' More so, when the PRC underwent its Cultural Revolution.
 
The New Left in the United States, Canada and Western Europe, also included a new cohort of young Marxist-Leninist revolutionaries emerging in the 1950s and 60s. Representative of the various anti-revisionist tendencies that developed in reaction to the Khrushchev government in the USSR. Hoxhaism and the increasing popularity of China, and Marxism-Leninism Mao Tse-tung Thought, in becoming the new guiding politics in a period of national liberation struggles that were happening throughout what was once called the 'third world.' More so, when the PRC underwent its Cultural Revolution.
Yet, Western MLs turn out to be a mere minority in the face of this "non-communist left" in the West that is the dominant mainstream of bourgeois liberalism pretending to be supportive of socialism. Even some non-socialist/non-communist leftists managed with partial help of CIA to completely undermine Marxism-Leninism in the West. SDS (Students for a Democratic Society) condemned class struggle and made an iconic break with all sense of communism and socialism with the following:

"We don't need the Old Left. We don't need their ideology or the working class, those mythical masses who are supposed to rise up and break their chains. The working class in this country is moving to the right. Students are going to be the revolutionary force in this country. Students are going to make the revolution because we have the will."

- Address to the SDS in the 1966 summer convention

Thus, these words emphasized by the SDS were what ultimately is considered a prime example of the non-communist leftism that dominates the leftist mainstream sadly.
 
Alright. I'll list out characteristics of my ideology (Marxism-Leninism-Titoism) then.

Economic

  • Socialist mode of production
  • Anti-monopoly
  • Heavy emphasis on domestic industry
  • Economic stability means better for the workers

Legislative

  • Workers' State
  • Democratic Centralism
  • Unitary Executive
  • Workers' Party is the real socialist party

Law and Order

  • Pro-Police (law enforcement to protect workers)
  • Pro-Military (strong military and a nuclear arsenal to deter any imperialist influence)
  • Capital Punishment
  • Anti-corruption agenda against bureaucrats if they try to get above the President
  • Conscription of all able-bodied men (based on physical and psychological abilities)
  • Anti-emigration (population decline must be fought with radical means in countries with low population density)

Health and Education

  • Free healthcare
  • Free education
  • Affirming care for disabled people
  • Youth Wing dedicated to providing socialist tradition espoused by Marxism-Leninism-Titoism

Morality

  • Three sexes only (Male, Female, Intersex), there are no more than three as the rest is within the mind and not the matter independent of such (materialism)
  • Transition between genders is done by medical means, not by idealism
  • Freedom of religion permitted provided that there is tolerance of others and no propaganda against socialism or workers is justified in the name of "religious values"
  • Cultures are permitted but separatism is forcibly dealt with (Cosmpolitan to Civic Nationalism)
  • Pro-Family (against commodification and supportive of family relationships)

A basic summary if you will.
Yeh you can describe it - everyone can use Google here - but you can't apply it. E2a you're not that good at describing it either. Take pro-family, for example. What does that actually mean?
 
Alright. I'll list out characteristics of my ideology (Marxism-Leninism-Titoism) then.

Economic

  • Socialist mode of production
  • Anti-monopoly
  • Heavy emphasis on domestic industry
  • Economic stability means better for the workers

Legislative

  • Workers' State
  • Democratic Centralism
  • Unitary Executive
  • Workers' Party is the real socialist party

Law and Order

  • Pro-Police (law enforcement to protect workers)
  • Pro-Military (strong military and a nuclear arsenal to deter any imperialist influence)
  • Capital Punishment
  • Anti-corruption agenda against bureaucrats if they try to get above the President
  • Conscription of all able-bodied men (based on physical and psychological abilities)
  • Anti-emigration (population decline must be fought with radical means in countries with low population density)

Health and Education

  • Free healthcare
  • Free education
  • Affirming care for disabled people
  • Youth Wing dedicated to providing socialist tradition espoused by Marxism-Leninism-Titoism

Morality

  • Three sexes only (Male, Female, Intersex), there are no more than three as the rest is within the mind and not the matter independent of such (materialism)
  • Transition between genders is done by medical means, not by idealism
  • Freedom of religion permitted provided that there is tolerance of others and no propaganda against socialism or workers is justified in the name of "religious values"
  • Cultures are permitted but separatism is forcibly dealt with (Cosmpolitan to Civic Nationalism)
  • Pro-Family (against commodification and supportive of family relationships)

A basic summary if you will.
Sounds grim.
 
Alright. I'll list out characteristics of my ideology (Marxism-Leninism-Titoism) then.

Economic

  • Socialist mode of production
  • Anti-monopoly
  • Heavy emphasis on domestic industry
  • Economic stability means better for the workers

Legislative

  • Workers' State
  • Democratic Centralism
  • Unitary Executive
  • Workers' Party is the real socialist party

Law and Order

  • Pro-Police (law enforcement to protect workers)
  • Pro-Military (strong military and a nuclear arsenal to deter any imperialist influence)
  • Capital Punishment
  • Anti-corruption agenda against bureaucrats if they try to get above the President
  • Conscription of all able-bodied men (based on physical and psychological abilities)
  • Anti-emigration (population decline must be fought with radical means in countries with low population density)

Health and Education

  • Free healthcare
  • Free education
  • Affirming care for disabled people
  • Youth Wing dedicated to providing socialist tradition espoused by Marxism-Leninism-Titoism

Morality

  • Three sexes only (Male, Female, Intersex), there are no more than three as the rest is within the mind and not the matter independent of such (materialism)
  • Transition between genders is done by medical means, not by idealism
  • Freedom of religion permitted provided that there is tolerance of others and no propaganda against socialism or workers is justified in the name of "religious values"
  • Cultures are permitted but separatism is forcibly dealt with (Cosmpolitan to Civic Nationalism)
  • Pro-Family (against commodification and supportive of family relationships)

A basic summary if you will.

Morality fash, if you will.
 
Alright. I'll list out characteristics of my ideology (Marxism-Leninism-Titoism) then.

Economic

  • Socialist mode of production
  • Anti-monopoly
  • Heavy emphasis on domestic industry
  • Economic stability means better for the workers

Legislative

  • Workers' State
  • Democratic Centralism
  • Unitary Executive
  • Workers' Party is the real socialist party

Law and Order

  • Pro-Police (law enforcement to protect workers)
  • Pro-Military (strong military and a nuclear arsenal to deter any imperialist influence)
  • Capital Punishment
  • Anti-corruption agenda against bureaucrats if they try to get above the President
  • Conscription of all able-bodied men (based on physical and psychological abilities)
  • Anti-emigration (population decline must be fought with radical means in countries with low population density)

Health and Education

  • Free healthcare
  • Free education
  • Affirming care for disabled people
  • Youth Wing dedicated to providing socialist tradition espoused by Marxism-Leninism-Titoism

Morality

  • Three sexes only (Male, Female, Intersex), there are no more than three as the rest is within the mind and not the matter independent of such (materialism)
  • Transition between genders is done by medical means, not by idealism
  • Freedom of religion permitted provided that there is tolerance of others and no propaganda against socialism or workers is justified in the name of "religious values"
  • Cultures are permitted but separatism is forcibly dealt with (Cosmpolitan to Civic Nationalism)
  • Pro-Family (against commodification and supportive of family relationships)

A basic summary if you will.
Yeah. Fuck that. If that's yer revolution I'll be actively and proudly counterrevolutionary.
 
Yeh you can describe it - everyone can use Google here - but you can't apply it. E2a you're not that good at describing it either. Take pro-family, for example. What does that actually mean?
Pro-family in the sense which I have expressed is that I want to decommodify the family which is being corrupted by capitalism. Unlike right-wing propaganda claiming that Marxism seeks to "abolish family", the actual perspective is that families do not provide moral good to children with capitalism on the top because all they're taught is that money is above all and that children must pursue a future dedicated to making as much as money as possible. This can discourage children from pursuing more creative forms of labor as the capitalist system would seek to make jobs dedicated to profit value rather than something of one's heart.

Now, Engels did say that a nuclear family tends to act as a stronghold for private property. But why assume that such outdated form of family is justified to abolish family nowadays? Humans are social beings. Perhaps abolish the bourgeois tradition of the family and uphold the socialist tradition of the family focused on the importance of reducing socioeconomic inequality. Marriage can be non-religious because it should be the will of the two workers to engage in matrimony they consider to meet with their own criteria of love and not that of a religious institution claiming how a married life should be performed.

The main problem is when mother and father are too much absent not because they don't like the child but because of capitalism forcing them to undergo hard labor in order to support even one child. Commodification and commercialization ruined the family.
 
Alright. I will try to refute these arguments.

1. Class struggle does not encompass only the traditional white man working class. Class struggle is meant to encompass every worker regardless of their race, religion, sex, and ethnicity. A Black woman facing racial discrimination has to do something with the ruling class. Today, we have the capitalist DEI which encourages racism by hiring people based on their race. A Black woman will not feel secure even if there is a "representative" of the black people in the capitalist hierarchy. Therefore, capitalism can be racist for it aims to divide labor based on race. There is also gendered division of labor, as well as ethnic chauvinism, etc. The main problem is that libertarian socialists do not understand the mass potential of appealing to ALL workers and instead disregard the class struggle, claiming that it will lead to "totalitarianism". The whole New Left mindset is harmful rather than helpful. Therefore, class struggle must be considered the primary focus for as long as capitalism continues to deny any poor person the right to live a better life and move up, the class war must not be disregarded and there cannot be any compromise with the capitalist class.

2. Intersectionality is divisive and aims to disorganize the fight against capitalism. If we are to consider every form of oppression as "unique", then it defeats the whole purpose of revolution. The sectarianism of such "intersectionality" simply is incompatible with class struggle. Women fought for their rights not because "men are bad" but because the hierarchical system of such which also exists in capitalism is sexist. Women are paid less than men and capitalism would most certainly use a woman, not to "replace men" but to cheapen the labor and maximize their profit scheme. This is an inherently sexist example of how capitalism can exploit women and their labor, although the main disadvantage would be that women aren't as much physically good as men are due to biology but they can be used provided they are trained for it. Still, the aim is to reduce wages and increase surplus value, hence women would also band with men in the working class to fight off the capitalist system that is exploiting their labor based on gender.

3. It would be insidious to assume that every minority is fit best for their own. If that were the case, then socialism would have never happened and none of the great revolutions would have succeeded if every marginalized group prioritized their own individualist agenda instead of cooperation for capitalism is strong against loose networks but weak against a centralized and powerful agency. Would you claim that Black people didn't fight so they can be equal like everyone else but instead they want to be "special" unlike the others? Was the Civil Rights movement a failure because it did not prioritize its own agenda because it wanted to tell people that regardless of race, we're all humans?

4. Mainstream is indeed a problem that dominates the society. Here we can see the problem with gender roles for example. Marxism aims to abolish such, in a way that it will discourage the forced stereotyping of gender because gender itself is an identity. However, men and women still exist in a communist society because of their biology which should not be seen as an opportunity to divide labor by gender but instead appreciate the biological diversity of such. Unfortunately, many nowadays advocate for creation of multiple gender identities as a means of "rejecting social norms" which is inherently reactionary compared to what Marxism advocates for.

5. Marxism in the 19th century may have been mostly focused on the economic part but in the 21st century, Marxism also tends to focus on the social part. It connects both social and economic issues because the main enemy is still capitalism and who are the bourgeoisie at the top is not some "straight white dude" but also a diverse group of rich people who exploit others. There are indeed capitalists with a more divisive rhetoric (racism, sexism, fascism, etc.) but even the most "progressive" of the capitalists will exploit you no matter what! Social issues often arise from exploitation of the working class. You're born and want to be happy. You work hard and you do your best. But what's stopping you from success? An elite which is catered to reducing wages so it can maximize its surplus value against you. Whether that is domestic or international (exploiting third world countries).

6. Marxism certainly will respect such struggles and address their histories but it will also aim to unify the people regardless of race, sex, religion, and ethnicity. To not let people unite into a revolutionary socialist organization would be disastrous and would allow capitalism to win against the working class. Again, the working class is not represented by "straight white men" for Marxism now defines the working class to encompass anyone who has a low income and is being actively rid of their hard work by small wages due to capitalist profit motive.

7. Refer to numbers 2 and 3 for an explanation. Again, there is a correlation that black people are exploited by capitalism (Slavery in the United States) and that women are as well exploited by capitalism (smaller pay than men). These movements fight for equality, not for their own supremacy!

8. How can Marxism not change? Class struggle changed as well. To imply that it didn't is plain ignorance and denial of the importance of revolutionary change that helped transform societies into the better. Nowadays it is harder to overthrow capitalism but we must rely on uniting marginalized groups and banding them together against capitalism. If we can do this, then there will be another Great October Socialist Revolution to come.

Conclusion

The eight points provided are purely to justify the defeatist approach of the "Western Left", claiming that class struggle is "outdated" and that we must "compromise" with the rich elite. This is inherently dangerous to any new socialist or new leftist because it discourages them from being a leftist in the first place. This is the reason why the working class has mostly turned to the right-wing side of politics due to the ignorance of the Western leftists who are unwilling to appeal to the workers with an adequate Marxist rhetoric and instead parrot a corrupted neoliberal capitalist welfare agenda, calling anyone who is against their identity politics a "bigot" and "fascist".

(I couldn't use the quote because of the character limit, so original one goes to PTK)

I want baked beans on toast for dinner tonight, I know that much.
 
Pro-family in the sense which I have expressed is that I want to decommodify the family which is being corrupted by capitalism. Unlike right-wing propaganda claiming that Marxism seeks to "abolish family", the actual perspective is that families do not provide moral good to children with capitalism on the top because all they're taught is that money is above all and that children must pursue a future dedicated to making as much as money as possible. This can discourage children from pursuing more creative forms of labor as the capitalist system would seek to make jobs dedicated to profit value rather than something of one's heart.

Now, Engels did say that a nuclear family tends to act as a stronghold for private property. But why assume that such outdated form of family is justified to abolish family nowadays? Humans are social beings. Perhaps abolish the bourgeois tradition of the family and uphold the socialist tradition of the family focused on the importance of reducing socioeconomic inequality. Marriage can be non-religious because it should be the will of the two workers to engage in matrimony they consider to meet with their own criteria of love and not that of a religious institution claiming how a married life should be performed.

The main problem is when mother and father are too much absent not because they don't like the child but because of capitalism forcing them to undergo hard labor in order to support even one child. Commodification and commercialization ruined the family.
Yeh all that verbiage and nothing about what the family is
 
Alright. I'll list out characteristics of my ideology (Marxism-Leninism-Titoism) then.

Economic

  • Socialist mode of production
  • Anti-monopoly
  • Heavy emphasis on domestic industry
  • Economic stability means better for the workers

Legislative

  • Workers' State
  • Democratic Centralism
  • Unitary Executive
  • Workers' Party is the real socialist party

Law and Order

  • Pro-Police (law enforcement to protect workers)
  • Pro-Military (strong military and a nuclear arsenal to deter any imperialist influence)
  • Capital Punishment
  • Anti-corruption agenda against bureaucrats if they try to get above the President
  • Conscription of all able-bodied men (based on physical and psychological abilities)
  • Anti-emigration (population decline must be fought with radical means in countries with low population density)

Health and Education

  • Free healthcare
  • Free education
  • Affirming care for disabled people
  • Youth Wing dedicated to providing socialist tradition espoused by Marxism-Leninism-Titoism

Morality

  • Three sexes only (Male, Female, Intersex), there are no more than three as the rest is within the mind and not the matter independent of such (materialism)
  • Transition between genders is done by medical means, not by idealism
  • Freedom of religion permitted provided that there is tolerance of others and no propaganda against socialism or workers is justified in the name of "religious values"
  • Cultures are permitted but separatism is forcibly dealt with (Cosmpolitan to Civic Nationalism)
  • Pro-Family (against commodification and supportive of family relationships)

A basic summary if you will.

Funny/not funny post of the year. You probably get trophy points for that these days.
 

I see you know as much about secret societies as you do about M-L…
Masons never purport to be a secret society, but a 'society with secrets' in that any eligible man can walk up to the front door of the lodge and begin the process to join ( even if those who are a Lewis or get the tap on the shoulder have a slightly smoother passage)

 
The Western Left pretty much assumes that position of actual leftism being something on an equal level with Stalin, Mao, Juche, etc. But what can you really do when the CIA influences people's minds into thinking that leftism is when "American liberal values" and anything against American liberalism is "reactionary NazBol Juche-Stalinist-Trumpist ideology". The CIA might have been partially involved in strengthening the liberal leftism of the "New Left" in order to discourage actual socialism and communism from spreading into the USA and instead prevent any form of "class consciousness" by making people dismiss it as "bigoted, fascist, anti-human rights, etc.".

Besides the partial-backing from CIA, we see how prominent Western Leftists in 20th and 21st century, say for only a few exceptional (Marx, Engels, Castro, Guevara) have been establishing this pro-imperialist narrative while claiming to fight for social justice and there is a list of plentiful.

  • Herbert Marcuse (member of the pseudo-Marxist "Frankfurt Academia" which dismisses class struggle in favor of "sexual liberation", father of the New Left)
  • Noam Chomsky (anarchist who profoundly denied the genocide in Srebrenica "because it did not fill the criteria")
  • Judith Butler (infamous female bourgeois idealist who pioneered the "queer theory")
  • Michel Foucault (French postmodernist and anti-Marxist)
  • Eduard Bernstein (Member of SPD, profound 19th-century revisionist who rejected revolutionary aspect of Marxism and favored reformism)
oh look he's ( boringly predictably ) being a homophobe, transphobe and misogynist again ...
 
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You're either the ultimate piss taker, or a dangerous individual if you believe anyone would buy your brand of authoritarianism and seeking to control family, sexuality and culture.

Luckily, you don't get to decide all this, Mr Morality Police.
Of course not, but there are ML states that will do the job maybe.
 
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