The Left Failing Young Men (and how to reclaim the Left from liberals)

[Yugoslav]

Well, you advocate seizing the bourgeois state, not smashing it.

It's part of the two-stage revolution.

1. Overthrow the bourgeois in power and repress their counterrevolution inside and elsewhere.
2. The state will wither away given the lack or complete vanquishment of the bourgeoisie.

 

[existentialist]

Except 2's not going to happen. You lot forget that the bourgeoisie is the Golgafrincham Ark B of our society, and - as plenty of communist states have already discovered - they leave a vacuum that always gets filled by apparatchiks, oligarchs-in-waiting, and corruption.

But anyway, y'know, burble away. I only replied to this because I was bored.

 

[PTK]

Except 2's not going to happen. You lot forget that the bourgeoisie is the Golgafrincham Ark B of our society,

42.

 

[krtek a houby]

Just wondering; has the "left" also failed young women?

 

[Yugoslav]

Just wondering; has the "left" also failed young women?

Yes. A profound sequel awaits soon!

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Yes. A profound sequel awaits soon!

Can't wait.

 

[krtek a houby]

Yes. A profound sequel awaits soon!

Why do you exclude women from your rants?

 

[Yugoslav]

Why do you exclude women from your rants?

1. The thread talks about young men suffering from the failures of the Left.
2. Men blaming women for their pitfalls is misogyny. Capitalism ruined men and women. Capitalism antagonized men and women against each other.

 

[InArduisFouette]

Can't wait.

for yet more of Phil's misogyny and transphobia ?

 

[InArduisFouette]

1. The thread talks about young men suffering from the failures of the Left.
2. Men blaming women for their pitfalls is misogyny. Capitalism ruined men and women. Capitalism antagonized men and women against each other.

you are an expert on misogyny, Phil, the problem is your expertise is derived from being a perpetrator of misogyn y as your frantic ejaculations demonstrate

 

[Yugoslav]

you are an expert on misogyny, Phil, the problem is your expertise is derived from being a perpetrator of misogyn y as your frantic ejaculations demonstrate

Phil is long gone. I'm hardly even associated with him and yet this increased fear and association of MLs with Phil is an insidious attempt of re-creating the Red Scare on Urban75.

 

[petee]

Phil is long gone. I'm hardly even associated with him

so ... you are to some extent associated with him?

 

[krtek a houby]

Phil is long gone. I'm hardly even associated with him and yet this increased fear and association of MLs with Phil is an insidious attempt of re-creating the Red Scare on Urban75.

You're not fooling anyone, dwyer

 

[Yugoslav]

so ... you are to some extent associated with him?

Not really. The only thing I know is that he's banned and that you keep talking about him.

 

[Pickman's model]

Phil is long gone. I'm hardly even associated with him and yet this increased fear and association of MLs with Phil is an insidious attempt of re-creating the Red Scare on Urban75.

You're not a marxist-leninist

 

[Yugoslav]

You're not a marxist-leninist

And how does the Westerner define "Marxism-Leninism"?

In the areas of Eastern Europe, Yugoslavia, USSR, and the AES states, it has been often seen as a mainstream socialism defined by vanguard revolution, two-stage approach to communism, democratic centralism, state socialism, anti-imperalism, the right to self-determination, etc.

 

[krtek a houby]

And how does the Westerner define "Marxism-Leninism"?

In the areas of Eastern Europe, Yugoslavia, USSR, and the AES states, it has been often seen as a mainstream socialism defined by vanguard revolution, two-stage approach to communism, democratic centralism, state socialism, anti-imperalism, the right to self-determination, etc.

You live in the US, Westerner

 

[Yugoslav]

You live in the US, Westerner

Nonsense.

 

[Pickman's model]

And how does the Westerner define "Marxism-Leninism"?

In the areas of Eastern Europe, Yugoslavia, USSR, and the AES states, it has been often seen as a mainstream socialism defined by vanguard revolution, two-stage approach to communism, democratic centralism, state socialism, anti-imperalism, the right to self-determination, etc.

I don't see a ringing defence of your claim to be a marxist-leninist

 

[Yugoslav]

I don't see a ringing defence of your claim to be a marxist-leninist

I am a ML. Like as I listed. I support the vanguard workers' revolution, workers' rights, two-stage, democratic centralism, state socialism, anti-imperialism, the right of nations to self-determination under a global communist federation, etc.

 

[Pickman's model]

I am a ML. Like as I listed. I support the vanguard workers' revolution, workers' rights, two-stage, democratic centralism, state socialism, anti-imperialism, the right of nations to self-determination under a global communist federation, etc.

You're not a marxist-leninist, you didn't know the first thing about democratic centralism

 

[PTK]

You're not a marxist-leninist, you didn't know the first thing about democratic centralism

I second that.
Furthermore, "Two-stage " revolution is revisionism.

 

[Yugoslav]

I second that.
Furthermore, "Two-stage " revolution is revisionism.

So Marxism-Leninism is "revisionist"? Eh, not surprised at this Western revisionism claiming so.

 

[PTK]

So Marxism-Leninism is "revisionist"? Eh, not surprised at this Western revisionism claiming so.

Where does Lenin advocate "two stage revoluition" in a developed capitalist country?

 

[Pickman's model]

So Marxism-Leninism is "revisionist"? Eh, not surprised at this Western revisionism claiming so.

You should have revised before posting here

 

[existentialist]

Not really. The only thing I know is that he's banned and that you keep talking about him.

I am a ML. Like as I listed. I support the vanguard workers' revolution, workers' rights, two-stage, democratic centralism, state socialism, anti-imperialism, the right of nations to self-determination under a global communist federation, etc.

Saying it doesn't make it so.

 

[Pickman's model]

Just wondering; has the "left" also failed young women?

The mods have failed us all by not promptly sending yugoslav to a virtual dalstroy

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Where does Lenin advocate "two stage revoluition" in a developed capitalist country?

 

[krtek a houby]

The mods have failed us all by not promptly sending yugoslav to a virtual dalstroy

The fragmentation can't come soon enough.

 

[Yugoslav]

Where does Lenin advocate "two stage revoluition" in a developed capitalist country?

1. First stage is socialist mode of production
2. Second stage is communist mode of production

If the second stage were to happen, the first stage must eliminate all capitalism