friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
It works for Bo Jo.He's so bloody cheerful about it, too! I suppose that's the advantage of being Eton-educated, you've no suspicion that you might be being a dick.
It works for Bo Jo.He's so bloody cheerful about it, too! I suppose that's the advantage of being Eton-educated, you've no suspicion that you might be being a dick.
No, sadly it isn't. I worked with a load of engineers who were not publicly educated and most used to ask for my opinion, then question it, tell me I wasn't a real engineer despite me being more high qualified than them, talk over me in meetings and generally act like they were entitled because they were men and I wasn't.Thinking about this a bit more, it's not just public-school educated men who act like it's a bit of a jolly jape - although they're probably the worst. But "ordinary" men in the office treat equality issues like a big joke and as though they're being delightfully mischievous for refusing to be "PC".
but no jail for him.He admitted punching and kicking his wife, hitting her head against a floor and brandishing a knife at her, and attacking his daughters when they tried to intervene.
this is how they silence us.The thing is, most of this self-defence shit really tends not to work when the attacks are coming from those we know and trust. I honestly don't fear the random stranger as much as I have been cowed by the slaps and punches of a parent/brother/husband/colleague/ neighbour.
There's also this from the UK but it doesn't really say why youth is prioritised 40-plus women: Putting age before reason – Marketing Week and this which essentially says that US marketeers are focusing on young(er) people because they have longer consumer lifespans Why Are Marketers So Obsessed With Millennials?Wall Street Journal said:The numbers typically originate with companies and writers who specialize in emphasizing the importance of marketing to women -- who do seem to control more than half of household spending, according to some surveys, but not 80%. This isn't academic research, and a half dozen economists contacted said they aren't familiar with any studies that quantify women-controlled spending. "The notion of spending under 'control' of one group just does not make much conceptual sense to me," Harvard University economist Lawrence Katz wrote in an email.
The personal is political.
No I agree. I don't find women who have well paid jobs in advertising amazing either.I actually have no idea what to think of that, mango5. The whole site just seemed nauseatingly 'can-do', American and focused on...what? Marketing? Why are these women 'amazing'?
Obviously, feeling poor, unincluded and hearing that we are somehow to be noticed because we 'buy stuff'. I really don't know... but have to say, Heidi whatsherface - the 54 year old horserider and 'party girl can go fuck herself. If our buying power is the key to our visbility, then blow me, I am happy to remain in the twilight hinterlands.
have I got this all wrong.
...it says don't get old/er ...It says conform to what society tells you makes you valuable, consume, get fake hair, nails, tan, eyelashes etc...just being female is never enough.I worry what this says to young girls.
Thanks for all that. The bit about the US focusing on young(er) people because they have longer consumer lifespans doesn't ring true.Thanks for getting into the detail friendofdorothy I linked to the main site https://www.uninvisibility.com upthread which has more diverse stories, but I couldn't easily see where the stat came from. The closest/most recent things I could find is this piece of marketing blather BOOMERS OVER 50 YEARS OLD BUY 50% OF EVERYTHING and this Women Influence 83% Of All Consumer Spending In U.S. — Inclusionary Leadership Group. which is basically telling American male salesfolk they should be targeting women more. The woman behind Univisibility seems to be a marketing bod (https://www.janee.london/)
Edit to add Do Women Really Control 80% of Household Spending?
There's also this from the UK but it doesn't really say why youth is prioritised 40-plus women: Putting age before reason – Marketing Week and this which essentially says that US marketeers are focusing on young(er) people because they have longer consumer lifespans Why Are Marketers So Obsessed With Millennials?
I'll be interested to see what difference recent regulation against gender stereotypes in advertising will have.Marketeers spout crap is my take on it. And Jane thingy has some good ideas which suffer from the shallow shine of a marketing approach.
The trend Dorothy identified about targeted ads being about anti-aging gloop will, I think, extend to other things too as the other trend for 'real bodies' grows. But the cult of youth is long-established and unlikely to disappear imo. And the crap about women controlling household expenditure which keeps us domesticated has been somewhat addressed by the recent regulation against gender stereotypes in advertising.
A harsh interpretation would say the Uninvisiblityssite perpetuates silencing through subtle stereotyping that presents the idea that well-earned wrinkles are OK as somehow radical.
I'll be interested to see what difference recent regulation against gender stereotypes in advertising will have.
I vaguely recall hearing about them - mango5?What regulations are these?
A harsh interpretation would say the Uninvisiblityssite perpetuates silencing through subtle stereotyping that presents the idea that well-earned wrinkles are OK as somehow radical.
Gender stereotypes are generally a bit shit though, so 'harmful' sounds a bit WTF.NB, regulations about stereotypes: Ban on harmful gender stereotypes in ads comes into force Specifically it says 'harmful' gender stereotypes, which I imagine many people will disagree on what that means.
Is it odd that this silencing thread has more contributions from women in the last couple of pages than the celebration thread?
This one?There's currently a story on the BBC website about a couple of adverts which have fallen foul of the new rules (on phone ATM so can't link )