XL Bully dog - discussion

[Silas Loom]

Aside from the insurance argument, a specific licence for allowing a dog off-lead in a public place would make sense. It should only be granted if the owner can demonstrate to an examiner that the dog obeys recall and “leave it” commands.

 

[Silas Loom]

Who would inforce it and how? Are the police going to do random checks on dog walkers?

Volunteer dog wardens. The scheme would be inundated with applicants, even for administrative and training posts.

 

[two sheds]

Volunteers for enforcement? I'd imagine they'd be all for stopping fluffy miniature poodle owners, less so agressive bully dog owners.

 

[Silas Loom]

Volunteers for enforcement? I'd imagine they'd be all for stopping fluffy miniature poodle owners, less so agressive bully dog owners.

Retired grim-faced martinets, full of self-righteous fervour. In pairs. Possibly with uniforms, which they would have to pay for.

 

[two sheds]

Lots of far-right enforcement volunteers

 

[Silas Loom]

Some of your poodle enthusiasts, some social inadequates who model themselves on the Viz bottom inspectors. A very tightly defined remit and limited powers. It would work out, more or less, just as the magistracy does.

 

[kebabking]

My mind casts itself back to the 'Vid pandemic, and the (short-lived) suggestion from the clown show/goat rodeo that there might be 'covid marshalls': troops of Daily Mail reading fascists in high-viz jackets roaming the streets measuring the distance between citizens as they went about their business and issuing fines for parents wiping their children's noses....

 

[Silas Loom]

But the Daily Mail is the house organ of covid deniers. The marshalls would have been Guardian readers, who as keen cyclists would already have owned the hi-viz gear. And if we had had a government with the administrative competence to spin up covid wombles, fewer people would have died or would now have long covid.

 

[newme]

Who would inforce it and how? Are the police going to do random checks on dog walkers?

Reporting from vets would cover a lot, then public reporting I'd imagine like any other dog related thing. Just doesn't require an attack to take place, just the banned dog being there. If there's one in the area being a pain in arse people will soon report it if the problem will just go away.

 

[BusLanes]

Who would inforce it and how? Are the police going to do random checks on dog walkers?

Probably police and council enforcement/welfare officers.

Very few UK councils have more than a token number of animal welfare officers at present so they would be ineffective. We'd need a fair few more to make it useful

 

[littlebabyjesus]

My mind casts itself back to the 'Vid pandemic, and the (short-lived) suggestion from the clown show/goat rodeo that there might be 'covid marshalls': troops of Daily Mail reading fascists in high-viz jackets roaming the streets measuring the distance between citizens as they went about their business and issuing fines for parents wiping their children's noses....

They existed very briefly. I was moved on by one in an almost entirely empty park for having the temerity to sit down. More like SL suggests, though. More Guardian than DM, someone volunteering, wanting to do good, and ending up patrolling empty parks in the hunt for people resting their legs.

At least he was on his own. Around the same time, coppers were doing the same thing in groups of three or four.

Anyway, no thanks to dog marshals. Self-selecting busy-bodies bothering people.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Volunteers for enforcement? I'd imagine they'd be all for stopping fluffy miniature poodle owners, less so agressive bully dog owners.

I'd do it provided they issued me with some appropriate equipment. Like a harpoon.

 

[quimcunx]

Would it not more likely revolve around people reporting suspect dogs/owners and police/rspca/council responding to that?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Aside from the insurance argument, a specific licence for allowing a dog off-lead in a public place would make sense. It should only be granted if the owner can demonstrate to an examiner that the dog obeys recall and “leave it” commands.

Again, not really enforceable and would be ignored by the worst dog owners who are the only ones you'd really be aiming this at.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Would it not more likely revolve around people reporting suspect dogs/owners and police/rspca/council responding to that?

The police are no longer even responding to psychotic people roaming hospital grounds with knives.

And that's not a deliberately silly but made up example, it's a real one from this week

 

[newme]

Would it not more likely revolve around people reporting suspect dogs/owners and police/rspca/council responding to that?

Yes, very obviously, the rest of the comments are ignoring this.

 

[BoatieBird]

I'm putting this here because the more people know about it the better.
If you become a member of the Dogs Trust, currently £25 a year, you get £1,000,000 third party public liability insurance for your dogs

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[SpookyFrank]

I'm putting this here because the more people know about it the better.
If you become a member of the Dogs Trust, currently £25 a year, you get £1,000,000 third party public liability insurance for your dogs

Membership | Dogs Trust

Everything you need to know about our Membership scheme,

www.dogstrust.org.uk

Time to start training my dog to eat millionaires

 

[Oriole]

Video of the bully xl owners' march in London

 

[platinumsage]

I wonder if the XL Bully owner who ran away with his dog after it mauled a man in Walworth on Friday evening attended the march? Perhaps that's why he ran off, he had to go and get his banners ready.

American bully XL: Owner sought after man attacked in south London park

Police said the victim, in his 40s, was rushed to hospital after being bitten in Pasley Park.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Raheem]

Video of the bully xl owners' march in London

"Blame the owner not the breed."

Way ahead of you, mate.

 

[A380]

Video of the bully xl owners' march in London

It would have been more convincing if they had been confident enough to bring their dogs.

I mean, if it was a march in response to threats to ban dachshunds it would have been inundated in sausage dogs...

 

[newme]

It would have been more convincing if they had been confident enough to bring their dogs.

I mean, if it was a march in response to threats to ban dachshunds it would have been inundated in sausage dogs...

and soon hot dogs

 

[8ball]

Video of the bully xl owners' march in London

“Fierce” protest?

 

[weltweit]

I notice a severe lack of dogs at this protest.

Perhaps they couldn't be trusted to behave?

 

[8ball]

I notice a severe lack of dogs at this protest.

Perhaps they couldn't be trusted to behave?

See further up in thread.
They originally were going to bring the dogs then decided against it after some internal bickering.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

See further up in thread.
They originally were going to bring the dogs then decided against it after some internal bickering.

Is it the same event? Because the one up thread was in Birmingham not Trafalgar Square.

 

[platinumsage]

Is it the same event? Because the one up thread was in Birmingham not Trafalgar Square.

Birmingham is next weekend, puppies only!

Controversial mass XL Bully walk pulls second U-turn and will allow puppies

Jake Harris, who is organising a planned mass walk in Birmingham, has said puppies would be allowed at the protest against plans to ban the animal

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Magnus McGinty]

It’s one of those events I guess which would never attract a counter protest. “Save our Bullys” met with a response of “Kill your puppies.”

 

[Karl Masks]

Birmingham is next weekend, puppies only!

Controversial mass XL Bully walk pulls second U-turn and will allow puppies

Jake Harris, who is organising a planned mass walk in Birmingham, has said puppies would be allowed at the protest against plans to ban the animal

www.mirror.co.uk

no wonder the dogs are so violent, all the u turning their owners make them do