XL Bully dog - discussion
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newme
Giant in Pastyland now
Ok you first! Same
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WouldBe
Dislicksick
I've had one that would lick you to death.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
it's definitely a part of the cuddling epidemic
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
8ball
Decolonise colons!
likesfish
You can't park here sir
no but neutered muzzled in public and registered deals with the problem
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Combustible
Well-Known Member
Now without the dogs, in a move sure to silence the doubters.
XL bully 'bloodbath' fears spark march U-turn as it's branded 'mauling session'
Critics feared a 'bloodbath' when owners of the soon to be banned breed planned to take to the streets of Birmingham on Saturday, September 30, with the hope of 'proving people wrong'
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Now without the dogs, in a move sure to silence the doubters.
XL bully 'bloodbath' fears spark march U-turn as it's branded 'mauling session'
Critics feared a 'bloodbath' when owners of the soon to be banned breed planned to take to the streets of Birmingham on Saturday, September 30, with the hope of 'proving people wrong'www.dailystar.co.uk
That seems entirely pointless.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
puppies under 6 months now apparently encouraged
www.birminghammail.co.uk
Organiser of mass XL Bully walk now allowing dogs in second U-turn
Jake Harris has now said dogs under six-months-old would be allowed to attend the event, which has sparked controversy
8ball
Decolonise colons!
puppies under 6 months now apparently encouraged
Organiser of mass XL Bully walk now allowing dogs in second U-turn
Jake Harris has now said dogs under six-months-old would be allowed to attend the event, which has sparked controversy
Sadness in her eyes.
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
Pondering having a tasty looking cameraman for lunch
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Must admit if someone passed me with that dog on a lead I wouldn't bat an eyelid.
Obviously they’d choose the soppiest one available if trying to plead their case on the telly tbf.
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SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I hope someone somewhere is noting down the names of all the people posting pictures of their XL bullies with a load of hysterical bollocks about just because he could bite through a piano leg in one go doesn't make him dangerous, look here is with one of our surviving children. Could come in handy when the ban takes effect.
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
I noticed an ad on Facebook, for a law firm specialising in acting for dog owners. Someone had shared it along with 'your rights' type info, ie, if the cops knock on your door, don't let them in without a warrant, don't take your dog outside to let the cops look at it, etc.
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
I'm ready!puppies under 6 months now apparently encouraged
Organiser of mass XL Bully walk now allowing dogs in second U-turn
Jake Harris has now said dogs under six-months-old would be allowed to attend the event, which has sparked controversy
This is what they mean , right?
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
Conversely, 2-3 years ago I had a part-time job for a few months in a call centre, one of those 'have you had an accident in the past three years?' places. (I needed a part-time job to fit round weekly medical appointments, and it was round the corner and convenient.)
We regularly used to get phone calls about dog bites. Given that we worked shifts and I didn't work 7/7, I'd hazard a guess we had at least one dog bite enquiry a week.
You only tend to read about the really bad attacks in the news, the fatalities, or if there's footage like the recent attack in Birmingham. There are many more attacks round the country that go unreported.
I remember talking to a woman who'd been badly savaged by a dog and had severe life-changing injuries. She knew who owned the dog, it was her friend's adult son's dog.
When dealing with a call about a dog bite, you ask questions to ascertain whether they knew who owned the dog, did the dog owner have insurance, did the caller know where the dog and owner lived (was it council or social housing, ie did the dog owner own their own home), did they know if the dog owner worked, did they have an expensive car, etc.
Basically, you're trying to find out if it's worthwhile suing the dog owner, if they have any assets.
The woman who had life-changing injuries told me the dog owner did have money, it was buried in the garden. Reading between the lines his 'job' was drug dealer. So she couldn't claim.
The only way she could've claimed, I suppose, is if the dog owner was prosecuted and convicted in relation to the attack, perhaps for having a 'dangerous dog' but I don't recall it being a dangerous breed. But if there was any criminal liability, it might be possible to claim via the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority.
Another case where I handled a call involved a young girl whose face was bitten by her uncle's dog. Again, I questioned to try and ascertain if the dog owner had a job or any assets, whether it would be worthwhile to sue the dog owner.
Sadly for the girl who suffered facial injuries and permanent scarring, the uncle had never worked and lived on benefits and didn't have any assets.
All I could do was tell the mum that because the girl was a minor, the clock on the three year time limit to bring a claim wouldn't start ticking till she turned 18, so while she couldn't claim now, if the uncle's situation changed in future, if he got a job, if he received an inheritance, if he won the lottery, then she could potentially bring a claim then.
I think in both those cases the women who called thought there was some kind of government compensation scheme, they didn't realise that in a personal injury case like that it involves suing someone, ie the dog owner.
This kind of scenario is one reason why I think dog licences and insurance should be obligatory. Some dog owners can be terribly irresponsible and innocent people can suffer horrific permanent injuries.
We regularly used to get phone calls about dog bites. Given that we worked shifts and I didn't work 7/7, I'd hazard a guess we had at least one dog bite enquiry a week.
You only tend to read about the really bad attacks in the news, the fatalities, or if there's footage like the recent attack in Birmingham. There are many more attacks round the country that go unreported.
I remember talking to a woman who'd been badly savaged by a dog and had severe life-changing injuries. She knew who owned the dog, it was her friend's adult son's dog.
When dealing with a call about a dog bite, you ask questions to ascertain whether they knew who owned the dog, did the dog owner have insurance, did the caller know where the dog and owner lived (was it council or social housing, ie did the dog owner own their own home), did they know if the dog owner worked, did they have an expensive car, etc.
Basically, you're trying to find out if it's worthwhile suing the dog owner, if they have any assets.
The woman who had life-changing injuries told me the dog owner did have money, it was buried in the garden. Reading between the lines his 'job' was drug dealer. So she couldn't claim.
The only way she could've claimed, I suppose, is if the dog owner was prosecuted and convicted in relation to the attack, perhaps for having a 'dangerous dog' but I don't recall it being a dangerous breed. But if there was any criminal liability, it might be possible to claim via the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority.
Another case where I handled a call involved a young girl whose face was bitten by her uncle's dog. Again, I questioned to try and ascertain if the dog owner had a job or any assets, whether it would be worthwhile to sue the dog owner.
Sadly for the girl who suffered facial injuries and permanent scarring, the uncle had never worked and lived on benefits and didn't have any assets.
All I could do was tell the mum that because the girl was a minor, the clock on the three year time limit to bring a claim wouldn't start ticking till she turned 18, so while she couldn't claim now, if the uncle's situation changed in future, if he got a job, if he received an inheritance, if he won the lottery, then she could potentially bring a claim then.
I think in both those cases the women who called thought there was some kind of government compensation scheme, they didn't realise that in a personal injury case like that it involves suing someone, ie the dog owner.
This kind of scenario is one reason why I think dog licences and insurance should be obligatory. Some dog owners can be terribly irresponsible and innocent people can suffer horrific permanent injuries.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
You're going to need to beef up your sofa if you have that in the house.I'm ready!
This is what they mean , right?
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
Oh, it's alright, I don't let him on the sofa.You're going to need to beef up your sofa if you have that in the house.
BusLanes
Pedestrian
Guess if we reintroduced a dog licence fee there could be an insurance levy rolled in
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I'm ready!
This is what they mean , right?
Cows: more dangerous than any breed of dog.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
just like the vehicle excise duty is beheld on you holding an MOT certificate and insurance for the vehicle so it could be for a dog licence.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Do these measures work, though? Are there fewer dog attacks in countries that have these kinds of rules? Canada has dog licences, so does Germany. Looking up their dog attack stats, they're not dissimilar to the UK's stats. Spain's fatalities didn't go down after new laws were introduced 20 years ago.
The problem isn't just the breeds on their own. It's certain breeds plus bad owners who don't properly socialise their dogs. It's hard to legislate against irresponsible dog ownership. Well, it's easy to legislate against it, but hard to do so in a way that makes a difference.
I'm not against banning breeds that are proven to be disproportionately dangerous. But it's not a magic bullet, and neither would be reintroducing dog licences. I'm not sure this is a problem that can be legislated away.
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wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
my post was more to do with AnnO'Neemus post about victims of dog attack having no recourse when the owners had no money, compulsory insurance meaning they would have a recourse to some compensation in case of attack (obviously moot if fatal), and none of this negates the fact that idiots would not obey any of these laws in the first place and they usually are the irresponsible owners.
ultimately I think regulating the breeders is where it is at. it would also reduce the rescue needs.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
An xl bully dog was seized in Dundee after attacking another dog and placed with a very experienced kennel owner the police regularly used in these cases. The dog went on to kill the kennel owner so not sure rehoming with 'normal people' is always the answer.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Who would inforce it and how? Are the police going to do random checks on dog walkers?
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