Kemi Badenoch discussion

[mojo pixy]

edit, on reflection.

Fuck it, I'm not doing that. Behave how you want InArduisFouette , enjoy where it gets you

 

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The job is Badenoch's for the taking

"Gove suggests Jenrick could hold Conservatives back because he looks like ‘Tory boy’ "​

 

[Boo Radley75]

Kemi saying she wants to give people peerages FOR being massively and publicly transphobic. Ffs! Thank god this woman will never be PM.

I would give JK Rowling a peerage for gender stance, says Kemi Badenoch

The Tory leadership frontrunner said she ‘managed to get’ a peerage for Hilary Cass after her controversial review of NHS gender identity services.

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Boo Radley75]

The job is Badenoch's for the taking

"Gove suggests Jenrick could hold Conservatives back because he looks like ‘Tory boy’ "​

Looking like an actual puppet didn't stop Gove from twice trying to become Tory leader.

 

[brogdale]

Quite an achievement by Chope to bring to our attention Badenoch's one redeeming feature...

 

[Boo Radley75]

Quite an achievement by Chope to bring to our attention Badenoch's one redeeming feature...

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Not necessarily a redeeming feature. Josef Fritzl spent a lot of time with his family too.

 

[brogdale]

Doubling down (awful term) on her comments about her working class period, La Badenoch offers yet another class master-class...

A lot of people in the commentariat classes do not understand downward social mobility, and they think that where you are is what you are and that’s that, and people don’t move between them.

But my understanding of class as it is today is that it is different from what it was during Downton Abbey. People actually do move in between them and, given the level of migration that we’ve had into the country, the old class system doesn’t work and people like me don’t fit into it.

How many people have you met who are doctors in their country who are driving cabs here, for example, what class are they?

And if you are trying to shoehorn people into an outdated class system, you’re going to run into trouble.

Who knew that "Downton Abbey" was a an actual period in our socio-economic history?

 

[Pickman's model]

Doubling down (awful term) on her comments about her working class period, La Badenoch offers yet another class master-class...


Who knew that "Downton Abbey" was a an actual period in our socio-economic history?

I'm not sure if she's talking about the period depicted in Downton Abbey or the years in which it was on telly

 

[brogdale]

I'm not sure if she's talking about the period depicted in Downton Abbey or the years in which it was on telly

I've heard of the programme from my dear old Mum, but I'm really not certain of the exact period it was set in or when it aired. But then again, La Badenoch has probably intellectually pitched her comments just about right for the Daily Mail addled membership who will determine whether or not she leads HMLO.

 

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I've never watched Downton. Is it Edwardian?

 

[Pickman's model]

I've never watched Downton. Is it Edwardian?

Think it goes from edwardian to interwar but never watched it myself

 

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Think it goes from edwardian to interwar but never watched it myself

Im feeling awfully intellectually challenged for not knowing this. I shall go and find a box set somewhere. And ignore it.

 

[brogdale]

How many people have you met who are doctors in their country who are driving cabs here,

Fuck me, there's much to unpack there, isn't there?

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I've never watched Downton. Is it Edwardian?

I've only seen the film. It's as terrible as you might expect though. The servants all love being servants and the aristocrats wrestle with the terrible responsibility that comes with having money, servants and a massive estate.

 

[brogdale]

I've only seen the film. It's as terrible as you might expect though. The servants all love being servants and the aristocrats wrestle with the terrible responsibility that comes with having money, servants and a massive estate.

'History' for Mail readers, then?

 

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I've only seen the film. It's as terrible as you might expect though. The servants all love being servants and the aristocrats wrestle with the terrible responsibility that comes with having money, servants and a massive estate.

Servants loving their job; isn't that what their lords and masters like to think?
I would probably make a reasonable manservant or chauffeur but I really couldn't do it.

 

[Elpenor]

The first episode Downton abbey is set just as the titanic is sinking I think

 

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The first episode Downton abbey is set just as the titanic is sinking I think

Outed as a Downton fan
So, if correct, 1912 and not Edwardian then but it was a period a great unrest.

 

[brogdale]

Bale reckons that whichever of the pathetic anti-wokey turds wins this leadership election by conning the geriatric base, they'll get no milage out of that schtick for long...

 

[elbows]

I dont know how the demographics of the actual party members compare to those of their voters though.

 

[brogdale]

I dont know how the demographics of the actual party members compare to those of their voters though.

Good point, on the basis on no actual evidence at all...I'd guess that mean vermin members are even older than their voting base.

 

[brogdale]

Generic's campaign almost certainly behind this latest move to cast Bottler Badenoch as frit and economically ill-equipped ....

Kemi Badenoch has been blamed by senior Tories for “missing the chance” for the party to “make a mark” in its response to the budget because the leadership frontrunner had been unwilling to move the dates of the contest.

One former minister said: “This is our one chance to make a mark on what will be an extremely difficult day for the Labour party and we are squandering it.” Another said it made the party look “totally impotent”.

Badenoch has said publicly that she believed it was preferable for Sunak and Jeremy Hunt to lead the budget response given their Treasury experience....her stance has raised concerns among Tories over her willingness to engage on the economy. One senior MP even questioned whether she had the necessary level of economic experience, despite having been business secretary

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

Bale reckons that whichever of the pathetic anti-wokey turds wins this leadership election by conning the geriatric base, they'll get no milage out of that schtick for long...

the not silver lining of this being 18 out of 19 labour voters have years of disapointment beckoning before the next election.
e2a: not that I think a labour government is a silver lining

 

[Fez909]

Bale reckons that whichever of the pathetic anti-wokey turds wins this leadership election by conning the geriatric base, they'll get no milage out of that schtick for long...

Charts with dead Tories as a metric

Charts with dead Tories increasing year by year

 

[teuchter]

Bale reckons that whichever of the pathetic anti-wokey turds wins this leadership election by conning the geriatric base, they'll get no milage out of that schtick for long...

Does that take into account labour voters turning into conservative voters as they get older?

 

[LakieLady]

Does that take into account labour voters turning into conservative voters as they get older?

Is that still a thing? It hasn't happened to me yet or to any of my friends, some of whom are approaching 80.

We're the generation who saw the damage the Tories did under Thatcher as young(ish) adults, I wonder if that makes a difference? Although thinking about it, my parents never voted Tory either.

 

[brogdale]

Does that take into account labour voters turning into conservative voters as they get older?

Not AFAICS; it looks like a straightforward demographic projection from the snapshot of the 2024 GE party cohorts. On delivery, thus far, I'm not sure why any GE 24 LP voter would consider doing so again.

 

[two sheds]

Largely agree although it depends again what the alternative is going to be.

 

[Lotte]

The best thing about Downton Abbey was watching it with my stepdad, a retired history teacher, and seeing him get mad at how inaccurate it all was.

When you read about who created it, it makes sense.

 

[InArduisFouette]

I've never watched Downton. Is it Edwardian?

Edwardian to 1926 in the ITV series and the subsequent IPs are late 1920s