Police hunt for Kyle Clifford after three women murdered in Bushey, Herts

[barlimo]

Yes, had they been banned these poor women would be alive and well

I never mentioned a ban but like many others I would welcome the death penalty for murderers.

 

[editor]

His brother is a real piece of shit too

Six years ago, Bradley Clifford was handed a life sentence at the Old Bailey for killing an 18-year-old who smashed a bottle on his "prized" red Mustang in 2017.

Bradley Clifford ploughed into Jahshua Francis, 19, who was riding a moped, and his pillion passenger Sobhan Khan, 18.

He drunkenly chased their scooter through Enfield at nearly double the speed limit, on the wrong side of the road.

The two teenagers were flung into the air when he hit them. While Mr Francis escaped serious injury by "pure chance", Mr Khan was gravely injured.

In an "intense rage", Bradley Clifford continued the attack as he lay on the street, punching him hard nine times, the Old Bailey heard.

Before the killing, Bradley Clifford had threatened to put a knife down the throats and "rain hell" on anyone who interfered with his Mustang in a WhatsApp message to his girlfriend.

Kyle Clifford's brother, Bradley, is convicted murderer serving life sentence

Bradley Clifford, 30, is the older brother of Kyle Clifford, 26, who was found in Enfield, north London, following a massive manhunt sparked after three women were killed with a crossbow at their home in Bushey.

news.sky.com

 

[Dogsauce]

Absolutely. Much easier to address that than the reasons why this man committed such terrible violence.

While YouTube misogynists rake in millions nurturing the attitudes that leads to this kind of shit. Fuck male entitlement and especially fuck those who turn a blind eye to make a profit from it,

 

[GarveyLives]

Prime suspect Kyle Clifford with his ex-girlfriend, The Late Louise Hunt, who was one of the women killed in the Bushey crossbow attack.

The prime suspect in relation to the attacks has yet to be interviewed by the police as he has undergone emergency surgery for a chest wound that is believed to have been self-inflicted.​

Crossbow victim ‘was in controlling relationship with suspected killer’

The NHS continue to do their bit before Hertfordshire Police take over:

"A man suspected of killing a mother and two of her daughters in a crossbow attack will remain in hospital for "some time", police have said ..."

18 July 2024: Police still to question crossbow murders suspect

 

[Epona]

The NHS continue to do their bit before Hertfordshire Police take over:



18 July 2024: Police still to question crossbow murders suspect

I hope you're not subtly suggesting that nurses and doctors should make life or death decisions based on what people have done - that would be highly dodgy.
I want to see this fucker face trial and spend the rest of his miserable life behind bars.

 

[miktheword]

Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News

Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News

The men suffered "significant injuries" in four separate knife attacks in west London, police say.

www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

Back in West London hayes for a week, just thinking about the Bushey tragedy happened around same time, and some mates I asked tonight hadn't heard about the hayes slasher, all had heard about Bushey
Media bias, pretty victims compared to those who don't matter?

 

[Epona]

Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News

Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News

The men suffered "significant injuries" in four separate knife attacks in west London, police say.

www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

Back in West London hayes for a week, just thinking about the Bushey tragedy happened around same time, and some mates I asked tonight hadn't heard about the hayes slasher, all had heard about Bushey
Media bias, pretty victims compared to those who don't matter?

Oh for sure there is media bias in the amount of coverage these things get - I highly doubt anyone here would disagree with you.
See also coverage and hunts for missing children - middle class white victims get far more media attention, working class/poor/non-white are far more likely to be deemed as having been in trouble at home or school and run away or got involved in a gang or got into drugs or alcohol or similar

Not to detract from the horrific thing that has happened in this particular case, but yes there is a big difference in the way cases are treated by the media based on class and race.

 

[Sue]

Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News

Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News

The men suffered "significant injuries" in four separate knife attacks in west London, police say.

www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

Back in West London hayes for a week, just thinking about the Bushey tragedy happened around same time, and some mates I asked tonight hadn't heard about the hayes slasher, all had heard about Bushey
Media bias, pretty victims compared to those who don't matter?

Or three people being murdered garners more coverage than four people getting stabbed but not being murdered.

 

[Epona]

Or three people being murdered garners more coverage than four people getting stabbed but not being murdered.

Good point, I'd somehow missed that in the article the poster included a link to.
I mean not that I want anyone to be injured by violence either, but yes different outcomes entirely.

 

[miktheword]

Or three people being murdered garners more coverage than four people getting stabbed but not being murdered.

Obviously it does, but the point being made was the almost total lack of coverage of the stabbings, so much so that even people who lived in Hayes hadn't heard about it.
There's obviously no hierarchy of victims as portrayed by the media.

 

[Pickman's model]

Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News

Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News

The men suffered "significant injuries" in four separate knife attacks in west London, police say.

www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

Back in West London hayes for a week, just thinking about the Bushey tragedy happened around same time, and some mates I asked tonight hadn't heard about the hayes slasher, all had heard about Bushey
Media bias, pretty victims compared to those who don't matter?

Once again cops show they can patrol after an incident. Closing stable doors after horse has bolted.

 

[krtek a houby]

I never mentioned a ban but like many others I would welcome the death penalty for murderers.

Nah

 

[barlimo]

Nah

Many would disagree with you.

 

[LakieLady]

Many would disagree with you.

Including the Birmingham Six, the Broadwater 3, the Maguire 7, the M25 3, the Guildford 4, Stefan Kiszko, Judith Ward, Sion Jenkins and probably many more.

 

[keybored]

Including the Birmingham Six, the Broadwater 3, the Maguire 7, the M25 3, the Guildford 4, Stefan Kiszko, Judith Ward, Sion Jenkins and probably many more.

I'm generally against the death penalty but I'd be tempted to make an exception for Jenkins. His trials costed millions, still didn't manage to convict him when he was blatantly guilty and then he rubs the noses of everyone who suspected what a piece of shit he is right in it by standing as a Conservative candidate.

 

[Richard46]

Including the Birmingham Six, the Broadwater 3, the Maguire 7, the M25 3, the Guildford 4, Stefan Kiszko, Judith Ward, Sion Jenkins and probably many more.

Indeed and going further back Timothy Evans; Mahmood Hussein Mattan & George Kelly all hung and later had convictions quashed.

 

[existentialist]

Many would disagree with you.

They might, but that doesn't necessarily validate your argument.

 

[barlimo]

I'm generally against the death penalty but I'd be tempted to make an exception for Jenkins. His trials costed millions, still didn't manage to convict him when he was blatantly guilty and then he rubs the noses of everyone who suspected what a piece of shit he is right in it by standing as a Conservative candidate.

They might, but that doesn't necessarily validate your argument.

It's all a matter of what you feel is right.

 

[LakieLady]

I'm generally against the death penalty but I'd be tempted to make an exception for Jenkins. His trials costed millions, still didn't manage to convict him when he was blatantly guilty and then he rubs the noses of everyone who suspected what a piece of shit he is right in it by standing as a Conservative candidate.

I was working in the legal department of East Sussex County Council at the time. The morning after the arrest, there was much panicking as education HR went through all his records with a fine-toothed comb, checking that they'd done everything by the book, and endless discussion as to how to manage the fallout. It only came out much later that he'd lied about his qualifications, among other things. One of my colleagues, who'd met him several times, was utterly gobsmacked when all his history of violence to his wife and children came out.

He later married a very rich woman, iirc.

 

[Saul Goodman]

It's all a matter of what you feel is right.

I feel you're wrong.

 

[The39thStep]

Urbanites for the reintroduction of the death penalty . Fantastic.

 

[LakieLady]

They might, but that doesn't necessarily validate your argument.

I think the biggest argument against capital punishment is that our legal system is not infallible. You can let someone out of prison, and compensate them financially, but you can't bring them back from the dead.

The second biggest argument is that if killing people is wrong, it's wrong for the state to do it.

 

[LakieLady]

It's all a matter of what you feel is right.

Feelings shouldn't come into it. Decisions about judicial processes and punishments should be made with logic and calm analysis of which facts are proven and which not, and weighing up any extenuating circumstances.

 

[A380]

I never mentioned a ban but like many others I would welcome the death penalty for murderers.

Fuck no.

 

[Serge Forward]

I feel you're wrong.

I feel he's a fucking bell end.

 

[existentialist]

It's all a matter of what you feel is right.

That might be putting things a little simplistically...

 

[two sheds]

I still think that the death penalty should only be considered for people who want to reintroduce the death penalty. Not all of them of course, just those found guilty of murder. That would keep everyone happy

 

[Mr.Bishie]

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[Pickman's model]

Urbanites for the reintroduction of the death penalty . Fantastic.

I can think of at least one urb who'd benefit from the experience

 

[A380]

….logic and calm analysis of which facts are proven and which not, and weighing up any extenuating circumstances….

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