barlimo
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I never mentioned a ban but like many others I would welcome the death penalty for murderers.Yes, had they been banned these poor women would be alive and well
Police hunt for Kyle Clifford after three women murdered in Bushey, Herts
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hiraethified
His brother is a real piece of shit too
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Kyle Clifford's brother, Bradley, is convicted murderer serving life sentence
Bradley Clifford, 30, is the older brother of Kyle Clifford, 26, who was found in Enfield, north London, following a massive manhunt sparked after three women were killed with a crossbow at their home in Bushey.
GarveyLives
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Prime suspect Kyle Clifford with his ex-girlfriend, The Late Louise Hunt, who was one of the women killed in the Bushey crossbow attack.
The prime suspect in relation to the attacks has yet to be interviewed by the police as he has undergone emergency surgery for a chest wound that is believed to have been self-inflicted.
Crossbow victim ‘was in controlling relationship with suspected killer’
The NHS continue to do their bit before Hertfordshire Police take over:
18 July 2024: Police still to question crossbow murders suspect
Epona
Sonic: 1 Nov 2006 - 8 Jan 2022
I hope you're not subtly suggesting that nurses and doctors should make life or death decisions based on what people have done - that would be highly dodgy.
I want to see this fucker face trial and spend the rest of his miserable life behind bars.
miktheword
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Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News
www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org
Back in West London hayes for a week, just thinking about the Bushey tragedy happened around same time, and some mates I asked tonight hadn't heard about the hayes slasher, all had heard about Bushey
Media bias, pretty victims compared to those who don't matter?
Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News
The men suffered "significant injuries" in four separate knife attacks in west London, police say.
www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org
Back in West London hayes for a week, just thinking about the Bushey tragedy happened around same time, and some mates I asked tonight hadn't heard about the hayes slasher, all had heard about Bushey
Media bias, pretty victims compared to those who don't matter?
Epona
Sonic: 1 Nov 2006 - 8 Jan 2022
Oh for sure there is media bias in the amount of coverage these things get - I highly doubt anyone here would disagree with you.Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News
Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News
The men suffered "significant injuries" in four separate knife attacks in west London, police say.
Back in West London hayes for a week, just thinking about the Bushey tragedy happened around same time, and some mates I asked tonight hadn't heard about the hayes slasher, all had heard about Bushey
Media bias, pretty victims compared to those who don't matter?
See also coverage and hunts for missing children - middle class white victims get far more media attention, working class/poor/non-white are far more likely to be deemed as having been in trouble at home or school and run away or got involved in a gang or got into drugs or alcohol or similar
Not to detract from the horrific thing that has happened in this particular case, but yes there is a big difference in the way cases are treated by the media based on class and race.
Or three people being murdered garners more coverage than four people getting stabbed but not being murdered.Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News
Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News
The men suffered "significant injuries" in four separate knife attacks in west London, police say.
Back in West London hayes for a week, just thinking about the Bushey tragedy happened around same time, and some mates I asked tonight hadn't heard about the hayes slasher, all had heard about Bushey
Media bias, pretty victims compared to those who don't matter?
Epona
Sonic: 1 Nov 2006 - 8 Jan 2022
Good point, I'd somehow missed that in the article the poster included a link to.Or three people being murdered garners more coverage than four people getting stabbed but not being murdered.
I mean not that I want anyone to be injured by violence either, but yes different outcomes entirely.
miktheword
Well-Known Member
Obviously it does, but the point being made was the almost total lack of coverage of the stabbings, so much so that even people who lived in Hayes hadn't heard about it.Or three people being murdered garners more coverage than four people getting stabbed but not being murdered.
There's obviously no hierarchy of victims as portrayed by the media.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Once again cops show they can patrol after an incident. Closing stable doors after horse has bolted.Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News
Hayes knife attacks: Man sought after four men stabbed in face - BBC News
The men suffered "significant injuries" in four separate knife attacks in west London, police say.
Back in West London hayes for a week, just thinking about the Bushey tragedy happened around same time, and some mates I asked tonight hadn't heard about the hayes slasher, all had heard about Bushey
Media bias, pretty victims compared to those who don't matter?
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
Nah
barlimo
Well-Known Member
Many would disagree with you.
LakieLady
Well-Known Member
Including the Birmingham Six, the Broadwater 3, the Maguire 7, the M25 3, the Guildford 4, Stefan Kiszko, Judith Ward, Sion Jenkins and probably many more.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
I'm generally against the death penalty but I'd be tempted to make an exception for Jenkins. His trials costed millions, still didn't manage to convict him when he was blatantly guilty and then he rubs the noses of everyone who suspected what a piece of shit he is right in it by standing as a Conservative candidate.
Richard46
Talking Backwards
Indeed and going further back Timothy Evans; Mahmood Hussein Mattan & George Kelly all hung and later had convictions quashed.
existentialist
Things Done
They might, but that doesn't necessarily validate your argument.
barlimo
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LakieLady
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I was working in the legal department of East Sussex County Council at the time. The morning after the arrest, there was much panicking as education HR went through all his records with a fine-toothed comb, checking that they'd done everything by the book, and endless discussion as to how to manage the fallout. It only came out much later that he'd lied about his qualifications, among other things. One of my colleagues, who'd met him several times, was utterly gobsmacked when all his history of violence to his wife and children came out.
He later married a very rich woman, iirc.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I feel you're wrong.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Urbanites for the reintroduction of the death penalty . Fantastic.
LakieLady
Well-Known Member
I think the biggest argument against capital punishment is that our legal system is not infallible. You can let someone out of prison, and compensate them financially, but you can't bring them back from the dead.
The second biggest argument is that if killing people is wrong, it's wrong for the state to do it.
LakieLady
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Feelings shouldn't come into it. Decisions about judicial processes and punishments should be made with logic and calm analysis of which facts are proven and which not, and weighing up any extenuating circumstances.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Fuck no.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
I feel he's a fucking bell end.
existentialist
Things Done
That might be putting things a little simplistically...
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I can think of at least one urb who'd benefit from the experience
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
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