XL Bully dog - discussion

[Saul Goodman]

A baby girl is being treated at Cork University Hospital after being attacked by a restricted breed dog, believed to be an XL bully, in Co Kerry.

Baby girl being treated in hospital after XL bully attack

A baby girl is being treated at Cork University Hospital after being attacked by a restricted breed dog, believed to be an XL bully, in Co Kerry.

www.rte.ie

Somebody should have taught that child how do defend itself!

 

[Lotte]

In fairness, Chihuahuas should be banned simply because they're Chihuahuas. It's as if the design brief was "Make the most annoying dog on the planet"

Tbf to chis, a lot of them are yappy and aggressive because their stupid owners like winding them up because ha ha small angry dog funny. Plus everything probably seems like a threat when you're tiny.

Saul, you jest but some people genuinely do blame kids for being killed by XL bullies. Like, they provoked the dog, or Jack Lis's mum shouldn't have let him go to his mate's house, or a baby was crying and set the dog off because the dog mistook it for prey. Babies cry, FFS, it's kind of what they do and if a dog is so easily triggered by a baby crying, it isn't fit to be a pet.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Tbf to chis, a lot of them are yappy and aggressive because their stupid owners like winding them up because ha ha small angry dog funny. Plus everything probably seems like a threat when you're tiny.

Saul, you jest but some people genuinely do blame kids for being killed by XL bullies. Like, they provoked the dog, or Jack Lis's mum shouldn't have let him go to his mate's house, or a baby was crying and set the dog off because the dog mistook it for prey. Babies cry, FFS, it's kind of what they do and if a dog is so easily triggered by a baby crying, it isn't fit to be a pet.

Having one as a pet makes as much sense as having a lion as a pet. They're not pets. They're fucking savage animals, and there's no excuse for owning one.
The owners should be held to account if their dog attacks someone, and if a dog kills someone, it should be treated as if the owner had done the killing. That'd put a stop to most people owning these dogs. Then bring in an outright ban on their import/sale/breeding. There should obviously be a special dispensation for anyone who had one of these dogs prior to the new laws getting passed. They should be allowed to fuck off to a remote island and live out their lives with fellow fuckwits.

 

[Rebecca Riot]

Having one as a pet makes as much sense as having a lion as a pet. They're not pets. They're fucking savage animals, and there's no excuse for owning one.
The owners should be held to account if their dog attacks someone, and if a dog kills someone, it should be treated as if the owner had done the killing. That'd put a stop to most people owning these dogs. Then bring in an outright ban on their import/sale/breeding. There should obviously be a special dispensation for anyone who had one of these dogs prior to the new laws getting passed. They should be allowed to fuck off to a remote island and live out their lives with fellow fuckwits.

There's a man who runs a martial arts club in my hometown and he puts pictures on his Facebook page of his XL bully nuzzling his baby daughter's face and saying what wonderful pets they make.

If that dog was to turn nasty, which they can do in the blink of an eye, it would have the kid's face off.

 

[SpookyFrank]

You really have to question the outlook of anyone who wants one of these animals. Of all the breeds you could choose, you go for one with a reputation for extreme aggression.

Yeah it's mostly going to be dickheads isn't it.

 

[WouldBe]

The most common response is "BUT CHIHUAHUAS!" Seriously, fuck off. Most grown adults could fight off a chihuahua. They also don't have the bite force an XL bully does. They can kill babies and toddlers, but how many grown adults have been mauled to death by a chi?

Only dog I've been bitten by was a Yorkie.

 

[WouldBe]

And this defence would’ve required what? Perchance

An uzi.

 

[Saul Goodman]

There's a man who runs a martial arts club in my hometown and he puts pictures on his Facebook page of his XL bully nuzzling his baby daughter's face and saying what wonderful pets they make.

If that dog was to turn nasty, which they can do in the blink of an eye, it would have the kid's face off.

He sounds like a proper prick. Does he have pictures of Steven Seagal on the wall?

 

[Rebecca Riot]

He sounds like a proper prick. Does he have pictures of Steven Seagal on the wall?

Wouldn't surprise me.

He was on the local news earlier this year showing the dog with the baby and complaining about the ban on XL bullys that was just about to come in.

 

[newme]

Wouldn't surprise me.

He was on the local news earlier this year showing the dog with the baby and complaining about the ban on XL bullys that was just about to come in.

I've seen several posts (not here) suggesting people get an XL bully for things ranging to neighbours being annoying to a cat shitting in their garden. Hardly comes across great using a banned dog as a weapon and says a lot about those that buy them.

 

[PTK]

There was a discussion about this on AV last year and some twat said that if everyone, including very small children, were taught how to defend themselves when being attacked by an XL Bully then there'd be no need to ban the breed.

This is why we should all carry guns from the day we are able to grip one and pull the trigger. If the victims of these dogs had carried guns with them at all times, then they would have been safe. Unless the dog got them before the could shoot.

 

[two sheds]

or the dog got the gun.

 

[Rebecca Riot]

I've seen several posts (not here) suggesting people get an XL bully for things ranging to neighbours being annoying to a cat shitting in their garden. Hardly comes across great using a banned dog as a weapon and says a lot about those that buy them.

I believe they're very popular with drug dealers.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

I believe they're very popular with drug dealers.

They’re just very popular with arseholes tbf.

 

[newme]

I believe they're very popular with drug dealers.

Idk the ones I met were considerably more professional, the car arrived at a specified time and day then they dumped a bunch on the mirror and went to cut in the back as I was staying there as a guest. No dogs, no expensive anything on display, just efficient offloading with the minimal of fuss. Got through a door with 200 pills on me with a search cos we knew the head bouncer, he/they got his cut we got ours. Was cleared out in 20 mins. Spectacularly vomited on myself and a good 20 odd I'd kept for later on, had a shirt delivered to the place, got changed and carried on. Being quiet and not the obvious works best. I didn't vomit in one again.

 

[Lotte]

There's a man who runs a martial arts club in my hometown and he puts pictures on his Facebook page of his XL bully nuzzling his baby daughter's face and saying what wonderful pets they make.

If that dog was to turn nasty, which they can do in the blink of an eye, it would have the kid's face off.

I fucking hate people who do that. Might as well let your kid play with a loaded gun. I've seen photos of kids posing with pitbulls that killed them later.

As for the suggestion of getting one to kill any cats that shit in your garden, really goes against the whole 'oh, they're all soft as shite, they wouldn't hurt a fly' argument, doesn't it? If it's so soft and gentle, why do you want it to kill cats? If either of my neighbours got one of those fucking things I'd never let my cat out again.

 

[likesfish]

I see Belgium shepherds are the new -upcoming status dog-weapon (although usually referred to as Belgium Malinois.
So sad. My first dog was a belgium sheepdog - a loving, playful and smart dog. Have always loved shepherds (although I despaired of the dire breeding fails re;Alsations (and wouldn't have one of those weird, slope-backed tragedies myself). My current girl is a GSD/welsh sheepdog which was a farm reject because of her weird colour (sable, so lost amongst the bracken).

These are dogs you really don't need becoming popular very intelligent very energetic potentially very aggressive

 

[Lotte]

Their nickname is Maligator for a reason. The fuzz in Spain use them.

 

[nogojones]

Only dog I've been bitten by was a Yorkie.

In all fairness, I'd also ban them

 

[nogojones]

I believe they're very popular with drug dealers.

You need to meet a better class of drug dealer

 

[Rebecca Riot]

You need to meet a better class of drug dealer

A retired police officer moved in to our area last year and he said where he was living previously XL bullys were often kept by dealers as protection.

 

[Lotte]

On the subject of chihuahuas, Jamie Vardy reminds me of one. I think it's the eyes.

I wonder if that nutcase banging on about eugenics and how everyone who wanted XL bullies banned is evil is still on here.

 

[Serge Forward]

These are dogs you really don't need becoming popular very intelligent very energetic potentially very aggressive

I agree they should not become popular or fashionable among the type of fuckwits currently into bullies. The malinois is actually a lovely dog, highly intelligent, very loyal and very high energy. It also has a much nicer temperament than banned breeds, but in the hands of a dickhead owner, it's a fucking monster. Unfortunately, I expect it to become the scary dog of choice for dickheads.

 

[cesare]

Dogs with a high prey drive might not be ideal.as a family pet. As a person that grew up with GSDs, ouch and I adore them.

But there we have it - prey drive plus massive ability to.kill - why would people without the ability to control.their dogs, have these dogs. It's the same as the gun laws.

 

[krtek a houby]

In all fairness, I'd also ban them

My YT has been dead a quarter of a century, she was such a sweet natured thing & still miss her.

 

[Lotte]

What I like about Yorkies is that they're cute little fluffy things, but they were bred to kill rats. They're tenacious little buggers.

 

[StoneRoad]

update on the two dogs mentioned ^^^

Two dogs suspected of killing man in Birmingham found

West Midlands Police had launched an urgent hunt for the animals.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[newme]

What I like about Yorkies is that they're cute little fluffy things, but they were bred to kill rats. They're tenacious little buggers.

Would be substantially more useful than my border collie / corgi mix. Who saw a rat and just completely ignored it, then tries to round up other dogs for some reason on a pack walk, attacked a wasp quite happily tho and got stung on the nose for it.

 

[frogwoman]

I agree they should not become popular or fashionable among the type of fuckwits currently into bullies. The malinois is actually a lovely dog, highly intelligent, very loyal and very high energy. It also has a much nicer temperament than banned breeds, but in the hands of a dickhead owner, it's a fucking monster. Unfortunately, I expect it to become the scary dog of choice for dickheads.

I had tervuren as a kid (same breed as malinois but a different coat style). I still miss her. Can't get my head around dickheads owning such dogs although I definitely believe it.

 

[LakieLady]

Would be substantially more useful than my border collie / corgi mix. Who saw a rat and just completely ignored it, then tries to round up other dogs for some reason on a pack walk, attacked a wasp quite happily tho and got stung on the nose for it.

One of my lakies was a superb ratter. We used to get rats when the people next door had chickens, and Lola Lakie's record was 3 in one day. She used to leave them displayed on the lawn, so the neighbours could appreciate her efforts.