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What stupid shit has Biden done today?

What do we want? More Derek Chauvins! When do we want them? Now!
The vast majority of American voters don't want the police de funded. It's political suicide. If the Democrats just appeal to their looney left, only the Republicans will benefit.
 
The Black Lives Matter movement, which is back in the headlines amid the nationwide protests, receives wide support. Two-thirds of U.S. adults say they support the movement, with 38% saying they strongly support it. This sentiment is particularly strong among black Americans, although majorities of white (60%), Hispanic (77%) and Asian (75%) Americans express at least some support.
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A new poll by Ipsos and USA Today shows that less than 20 percent of respondents support the “defund the police” movement, with 58 percent opposing it.

The poll also suggested low support among Democrats and Black Americans for the movement.

Just 28 percent of Black respondents and 34 percent of Democrats backed the campaign, according to the poll.

Opposition to defund the police was higher among Republicans and whites, with 84 percent of Republicans and 67 percent of whites opposing the movement.

Overall, only 18 percent said they supported the defund the police movement compared to 58 percent who said they opposed it.

Opposition was also high to abolishing or eliminating the police. Sixty-seven percent said they would not support doing so.
 
Impressive that a full third of Americans seem to support abolishing or eliminating the police from that polling. Also that suggests that "Overall, only 18 percent said they supported the defund the police movement compared to 58 percent who said they opposed it." but then adds "The poll also examined support for redirecting police funds to social services. Only 43 percent of respondents supported the idea, while more than half opposed the proposal." which seems to suggest that the way you word the question makes quite a lot of difference, 43% of respondents wanting to redirect police funds away from the police seems like a fairly popular idea.
 
Impressive that a full third of Americans seem to support abolishing or eliminating the police from that polling. Also that suggests that "Overall, only 18 percent said they supported the defund the police movement compared to 58 percent who said they opposed it." but then adds "The poll also examined support for redirecting police funds to social services. Only 43 percent of respondents supported the idea, while more than half opposed the proposal." which seems to suggest that the way you word the question makes quite a lot of difference, 43% of respondents wanting to redirect police funds away from the police seems like a fairly popular idea.

You'd probably get a majority in favour - including among cops - if the question was "should drug workers or mental health workers respond to some emergency calls instead of the police?"
 
‘Defund the police’ is as misunderstood as BLM, in most cases deliberately. Like people haven’t spent a fraction of a moment finding out what it actually means and what it is about. A better world could be achieved if minor social problems weren’t the remit of racist thugs with guns. If done properly the police would actually have more time to ‘protect and serve’ and deal with the genuinely dangerous stuff rather than murdering the mentally ill.
 
‘Defund the police’ is as misunderstood as BLM, in most cases deliberately. Like people haven’t spent a fraction of a moment finding out what it actually means and what it is about. A better world could be achieved if minor social problems weren’t the remit of racist thugs with guns. If done properly the police would actually have more time to ‘protect and serve’ and deal with the genuinely dangerous stuff rather than murdering the mentally ill.

To be fair they could have done a better job with messaging.
 
The vast majority of American voters don't want the police de funded. It's political suicide. If the Democrats just appeal to their looney left, only the Republicans will benefit.

Collaborators with and apologists for the fascists in uniform should be defunded.
 
Collaborators with and apologists for the fascists in uniform should be defunded.
I have no idea who you think are the "Collaborators with and apologists for the fascists in uniform." The Trump forces love that rhetoric. They used it in the 2020 campaign against Democrats and will surely use it in the midterms in 2022. It's time to discard the leftist ideology and deal with political reality. Look who will be the next mayor of NYC, a former cop and anti "defund the police"candidate.

Eric Adams, a former NYPD captain who's poised to become New York mayor after winning the Democratic primary last night, points to a new path for Democrats to navigate the police issue.

Why it matters: With homicides up across the country, and cuts to police spending in several major cities, key Democrats fear that last year's defund-the-police rhetoric could haunt them in next year's midterms. And Republicans plan to make crime a top issue.
 
I have no idea who you think are the "Collaborators with and apologists for the fascists in uniform." The Trump forces love that rhetoric. They used it in the 2020 campaign against Democrats and will surely use it in the midterms in 2022. It's time to discard the leftist ideology and deal with political reality. Look who will be the next mayor of NYC, a former cop and anti "defund the police"candidate.


It's time to discard centerist and other liberal cop loving lickspittles.
 
To be fair they could have done a better job with messaging.
I've sometimes wondered why campaigners don't go for a phrasing like 'fund social support not police' or even 'fund local services not police'. I do worry that the 'defund the police' slogan dominates as an example of activist purity. There's a kind of attitude of 'We have a right to assert what we think is most important, other people need to work out what it means and why we want it'. Which is kind of understandable directed to those in power, because they should do the work, but it doesn't really work directed at the wider population who don't have the time or inclination to be studying what every campaign group wants.
 
I've sometimes wondered why campaigners don't go for a phrasing like 'fund social support not police' or even 'fund local services not police'. I do worry that the 'defund the police' slogan dominates as an example of activist purity. There's a kind of attitude of 'We have a right to assert what we think is most important, other people need to work out what it means and why we want it'. Which is kind of understandable directed to those in power, because they should do the work, but it doesn't really work directed at the wider population who don't have the time or inclination to be studying what every campaign group wants.

I thought maybe "reform the police" would have been better., because hardcore some Republicans have come to the conclusion that the police are abusing their powers and need reforming. However, I like your idea of putting forward what you'd like to see funded instead. Its a more affirmative statement and course of action. Overall, I think the Republicans are better at messaging. They keep the message simple and repeat, repeat, repeat. They also tend to aim toward emotional (mostly fear) responses, while the dems put out statements only someone with a master's degree would understand on first pass.
 
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Overall, I think the Republicans are better at messaging. They keep the message simple and repeat, repeat, repeat. They also tend to aim toward emotional (mostly fear) responses...
Tbf, ACAB (or similar) passes that test. ;)

Anyway, came here to post this:

Saw someone refer to it as "the American remake of Grenfell", which is... fucking grim, but I can see where they're coming from.
The Department of Housing and Urban Development has backed away from new health and safety requirements for public housing that would require fire extinguishers, a minimum number of electrical outlets and other measures intended to protect residents from serious and potentially life-threatening hazards, according to the latest draft of the new standards.

Housing industry groups had urged HUD to ease some of these requirements, saying they would be too burdensome for landlords — alarming some tenant advocates who were caught off guard by the recent changes.

“It was surprising because we thought they were moving in a positive direction in a lot of ways. So it was disappointing that there was a retrenchment,” said Michael Kane, executive director of the National Alliance of HUD Tenants, an advocacy group. “The stronger version is important for people's health and safety.”

The standards are part of a sweeping, yearslong overhaul that aims to strengthen HUD’s inspection system for federally subsidized housing, including traditional public housing, Section 8 rentals and homes for older people with low incomes.

Under the new inspection system, which is still under development, the agency has significantly expanded the number of severe hazards that landlords must fix quickly, put more emphasis on the condition of residential units than building exteriors and added a slew of new safety and health requirements that tenant advocates have broadly supported. Since last year, however, HUD has also eliminated or relaxed some stricter proposed inspection standards in a number of key areas, according to NBC News’ analysis of the draft proposals.

Originally, HUD proposed requiring at least one fire extinguisher per floor, according to the first draft of the standards released in July 2020, calling it a “life-threatening issue.” The agency has since eliminated the requirement and will only consider fire extinguishers to be missing if there is “evidence of prior installation,” such as a bracket on the wall, according to the latest draft of the standards, released in April.

HUD similarly removed a proposed requirement for a minimum number of working electrical outlets in bedrooms, living rooms, kitchens and bathrooms that was included in the initial draft. A minimum outlet standard is required by many cities and states as part of their building codes to reduce the risk of electrical fires from overloaded outlets, and to minimize the use of extension cords.

The agency also loosened requirements for fans and windows in bathrooms — critical to preventing mold — and ground fault circuit interrupters for outlets near water, which are proven to reduce the risk of electrocution but are not always required by local authorities in older housing. HUD’s proposed rules now allow for “alternate means of dehumidification” for bathrooms and “outlet protection methods that include, but are not limited to” GFCI protection. (It’s not clear what other protection methods the HUD rule refers to.)

HUD denied weakening protections for residents and said providing safe and sanitary housing is a top priority for the Biden administration.

The initial draft standard for fire extinguishers had been misinterpreted, so HUD clarified it in the following version, the agency said. Other standards were modified after officials determined that the originally proposed changes would require additional rule-making to be implemented. The agency stressed that the new system is still under development.

“HUD will continue to make updates to the standards as necessary before their final publication,” Ashley Sheriff, an acting deputy assistant secretary for HUD's Real Estate Assessment Center, said in a statement. She added the agency would be guided by input from thousands of demonstration inspections as well as “substantial additional dialogue with residents, property owners and agents, public housing agencies and other stakeholders.”

But as they currently stand, some of HUD’s proposed requirements fall short of the minimum standards for residential housing set by the International Code Council and the National Fire Protection Association, which develop public safety codes that many state and local governments have adopted.

When informed of the changes by NBC News, advocates for tenants and safe housing urged HUD not to weaken health and safety standards in ways that could endanger the 5 million families across the country who live in federally assisted housing.
 
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Meet the new boss, same as a the old boss.
 
Key to Biden seems to be that he is just getting on with it, Trump was always all over the media, I haven't heard any publicity about Biden.
 
"What do you think about Andrew Cuomo, who resigned as New York governor today after 11 women accused of sexual harassment?"

"He did a hell of a job!" :rolleyes:



Though I will concede that getting Republicans to vote in favour of a $1 trillion infrastructure bill then using budget rules to push through a $3.5 trillion bill including all the stuff Republicans wouldn't vote for does show a certain amount of skill at running a government.
 
"What do you think about Andrew Cuomo, who resigned as New York governor today after 11 women accused of sexual harassment?"

"He did a hell of a job!" :rolleyes:



Though I will concede that getting Republicans to vote in favour of a $1 trillion infrastructure bill then using budget rules to push through a $3.5 trillion bill including all the stuff Republicans wouldn't vote for does show a certain amount of skill at running a government.
Well Biden would say that wouldn't he.

If you catch my drift.
 
"What do you think about Andrew Cuomo, who resigned as New York governor today after 11 women accused of sexual harassment?"

"He did a hell of a job!" :rolleyes:



Though I will concede that getting Republicans to vote in favour of a $1 trillion infrastructure bill then using budget rules to push through a $3.5 trillion bill including all the stuff Republicans wouldn't vote for does show a certain amount of skill at running a government.
Tbf to him (not a fan) he did ask for clarification as to whether the question was pertaining to his work as Governor or the dodgy behaviour.

The reporter replies she's asking about the former.
 
Read somewhere that both Trump and Obama tried to get an infrastructure bill through, but couldn't manage it.

Correct. Both were blocked by congressional opponents.

The fact that there now appears to be a consensus among the political class for Biden’s - more ambitious - plan is significant and shows how a combination of the pandemic, fears about the dominance of China’s economy and the sclerotic economies of places like America and the UK is forcing capital away from neoliberal orthodoxy and towards a form of reterritorialisation, isolationism, rescue-repair-recovery, domestic demand, insourcing, onshoring etc
 
Correct. Both were blocked by congressional opponents.

The fact that there now appears to be a consensus among the political class for Biden’s - more ambitious - plan

Biden only got bipartisan support for the unambitious part of the plan - an investment in traditional infrastructure like roads, bridges etc. funded by repurposing money earmarked for COVID aid and other purposes - Trump might have been able to pass a bigger plan if he hadn't insisted on linking it to the end of House investigations etc. and been generally clueless about how things work in Congress.

The bigger and more ambitious "human infrastructure" part of the plan, involving raising taxes on corporations and the wealthy to expand social programs, fight climate change etc., was passed on a party-line vote through the budget reconciliation process, Republicans are now saying they plan to thwart it with budget countermeasures that will lead to government shutdowns, etc.
 
Biden only got bipartisan support for the unambitious part of the plan - an investment in traditional infrastructure like roads, bridges etc. funded by repurposing money earmarked for COVID aid and other purposes - Trump might have been able to pass a bigger plan if he hadn't insisted on linking it to the end of House investigations etc. and been generally clueless about how things work in Congress.

The bigger and more ambitious "human infrastructure" part of the plan, involving raising taxes on corporations and the wealthy to expand social programs, fight climate change etc., was passed on a party-line vote through the budget reconciliation process, Republicans are now saying they plan to thwart it with budget countermeasures that will lead to government shutdowns, etc.

Yes, but two points:

1. What you characterize as 'unambitious' is a senate approved infrastructure bill worth over $1 Trillion to be spent on physical infrastructure and creating hundreds of thousands of relatively well paid jobs. Both Obama and Trump (and Bush and Clinton for that matter) failed to get that far. To have got this far, this quickly - and on a bipartisan basis - is significant.

2. What you refer to as the 'human infrastructure' elements of the Biden plan (which again to give some context is estimated to be $4 Trillion or thereabouts) has, as you note, has already passed through the Senate through reconciliation and is being tactically conjoined with the first package. I would be surprised if there weren't a raft of counter measures from the right and the left given the size of the package and its implications in all sorts of ways. But again the fact that the debate is about the specific measures, the respective benefits and the costs rather than the principle suggests new political economy territory that would have been unthinkable in the last 50 years. On shutdowns and GOP tactics, I'll be fascinated to see if that happens and how it plays out because it will not only decide the next election, the future political direction of the GOP but also reveal the extent to which capital has shifted towards post neoliberalism.
 
Genius or idiot


Personally, if I was in the Army in Afghanistan, I would wonder why so many of my friends were wounded or dead.
I would feel betrayed.

Their lives meant nothing - the Tailban is back to being in charge.
 
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