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What chance does Trump have of winning the 2024 Presidential Election?

wow just done a wiki and the list of US political assassinations is immense, longer still if failed attempts are included.. Someone sensible tried to forklift Trump out of existence not long ago! It cant be long before someone has another go :thumbs:
 
Trump will carry a lot of younger, mostly male, voters this time. Some people will act surprised, but it’s obvious what has been going on over the last few years. They’ve worked hard at it, swapped notes with Europe.
 
Trump will carry a lot of younger, mostly male, voters this time. Some people will act surprised, but it’s obvious what has been going on over the last few years. They’ve worked hard at it, swapped notes with Europe.

There’s a BBC documentary series - which I haven’t listened to yet - called ‘the kids are alt-right’, it’s about how youth are increasingly the driving force behind far right electoral victories across Europe. It doesn’t surprise me tbh, the internet is a sewer of rightwing reactionary nonsense these days - much of targeted towards younger audiences.

 
There’s a BBC documentary series - which I haven’t listened to yet - called ‘the kids are alt-right’, it’s about how youth are increasingly the driving force behind far right electoral victories across Europe. It doesn’t surprise me tbh, the internet is a sewer of rightwing reactionary nonsense these days - much of targeted towards younger audiences.

Tomorrow belongs to them :(
will give it a listen
 
Why has the cunt not been bumped off? Oh, just realised - that 'honour' in the land of the free is reserved for half reasonable humans like JFK and MLK and (its a fucking long list)..
This being the JFK who launched the war in Vietnam, was responding for the Bay of Pigs fiasco, and led the profoundly racist Democrat Party whose Southern members were responsible for introducing and enforcing Jim Crow legislation.
 
There’s a BBC documentary series - which I haven’t listened to yet - called ‘the kids are alt-right’, it’s about how youth are increasingly the driving force behind far right electoral victories across Europe. It doesn’t surprise me tbh, the internet is a sewer of rightwing reactionary nonsense these days - much of targeted towards younger audiences.


Does this mean this very popular meme may have had its day on urban? :(
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This being the JFK who launched the war in Vietnam, was responding for the Bay of Pigs fiasco, and led the profoundly racist Democrat Party whose Southern members were responsible for introducing and enforcing Jim Crow legislation.
i take it for granted that bourgeois politicians are ruthless scoundrels not worth the snot out of our noses, obviously including JFK. But in a choice of who should be assassinated - Trump or JFK, i reckon it is safe to assume most decent types would not select JFK? There are degrees of shade between top politicos eh? That said - i used a clumsy example 😐 .
 
if Trump was assassinated they’d probably just put Jnr up instead and he’d ride a wave of even more support/sympathy from all the loons who would vote for his dad.
He'll probably pick trump jnr as his vp running mate. Keep it in the family.
 
I was just listening to The World At One on Radio 4, and I am amazed that it seems now that Trump will be the candidate of the Republicans.
 
There’s a BBC documentary series - which I haven’t listened to yet - called ‘the kids are alt-right’, it’s about how youth are increasingly the driving force behind far right electoral victories across Europe. It doesn’t surprise me tbh, the internet is a sewer of rightwing reactionary nonsense these days - much of targeted towards younger audiences.

Israel too. Very large far right element among young men.

So much for Gen Z all being woke purple-haired types or whatever the far right think they are.
 
I was just listening to The World At One on Radio 4, and I am amazed that it seems now that Trump will be the candidate of the Republicans.
Looks likely atm - but if any of these multiple legal cases end up with a conviction and prison sentence , how does that affect the nomination? It could be that he wins the nomination but a special conference has to be held to pick another candidate if he is a felon.
 
Hope i'm wrong but the cunt is going to be president again and everyone will have to suck it up - unless a massive street movement develops and throws him out. Fat chance.

Not that i'm defeatist at all. The only positive that i can imagine is the spectacle of useless git Starmer kowtowing with the utter utter fucker at every opportunity. What a world eh?
 
Bookies:

Trump 11/10

Biden 7/4

I have no idea how to understand those, please translate, thank you.

These are interesting odds, though not quite up to date, though that's a minor quibble.

Why are they interesting? Because they mean, if you are convinced the next President will be either Trump (it will be) or Biden, you can bet on both of them and still be guaranteed to make a profit.

How does that work Geli?

Well, taking Sass's odds.

Trump 11/10 - put £47.62 on him, returns are £100 including your stake back.
Biden 7/4 - put £36.36 on him, returns are £100 including your stake back.

Total layout equals £83.98. Returns guaranteed = £100.

£16 profit for every £84 spent.

The odds can only be like this, in an essentially 2 horse race, because there must be some doubts over whether Trump will be able to run (away from any convictions). Also I guess, Biden might die. But if you're convinced one of them will be President, it's free money.
 
I think he'll get a conviction between now and November. It's going to go fucking batshit crazy if the court try and prevent him from running, the whole stolen election thing will be back with a vengeance

I'm not so sure about a conviction now - DA Fani Willis' alleged improper relationship with a prosecutor might have derailed the Georgia case, the Supreme Court might quash or delay the federal cases, and the New York case looks a little on the weak side.
 
These are interesting odds, though not quite up to date, though that's a minor quibble.

Why are they interesting? Because they mean, if you are convinced the next President will be either Trump (it will be) or Biden, you can bet on both of them and still be guaranteed to make a profit.

How does that work Geli?

Well, taking Sass's odds.

Trump 11/10 - put £47.62 on him, returns are £100 including your stake back.
Biden 7/4 - put £36.36 on him, returns are £100 including your stake back.

Total layout equals £83.98. Returns guaranteed = £100.

£16 profit for every £84 spent.

The odds can only be like this, in an essentially 2 horse race, because there must be some doubts over whether Trump will be able to run (away from any convictions). Also I guess, Biden might die. But if you're convinced one of them will be President, it's free money.

There is also still a small theoretical chance (though it's significantly smaller now than when those odds were posted) that someone other than Trump gets the Republican nomination and goes on to win.
 
That updated Kebabking prediction?

Trump will be convicted of something, but he'll still be elected.

Jan 6th is going to be nothing compared to what's going to happen - I think states/counties will declare for him and declare him POTUS, while other declare for Biden.

Actual civil war? Dunno, but certainly armed confrontations between different organs of state and federal government - and that Trump will eventually win. The US will look a lot like Russia/Belarus within a year.

Don't book a holiday there any time soon....
 
That updated Kebabking prediction?

Trump will be convicted of something, but he'll still be elected.

Jan 6th is going to be nothing compared to what's going to happen - I think states/counties will declare for him and declare him POTUS, while other declare for Biden.

Actual civil war? Dunno, but certainly armed confrontations between different organs of state and federal government - and that Trump will eventually win. The US will look a lot like Russia/Belarus within a year.

Don't book a holiday there any time soon....

Liked for the rapid escalation.

I think you're largely right, just dunno about the timescale. But the few things I hear from America, people's views, suggest it is on the edge of what you say. Armed confrontations certainly.

Your post might look shocking. But as I say, not far off, and the only reason people will be shocked (here) is because this isn't really ever being presented as what the scenario is. I don't think it's generally what people are getting to hear. But it's what I hear from my small sample.
 
These are interesting odds, though not quite up to date, though that's a minor quibble.

Why are they interesting? Because they mean, if you are convinced the next President will be either Trump (it will be) or Biden, you can bet on both of them and still be guaranteed to make a profit.

How does that work Geli?

Well, taking Sass's odds.

Trump 11/10 - put £47.62 on him, returns are £100 including your stake back.
Biden 7/4 - put £36.36 on him, returns are £100 including your stake back.

Total layout equals £83.98. Returns guaranteed = £100.

£16 profit for every £84 spent.

The odds can only be like this, in an essentially 2 horse race, because there must be some doubts over whether Trump will be able to run (away from any convictions). Also I guess, Biden might die. But if you're convinced one of them will be President, it's free money.

Today:

Trump 10/11
Biden 15/8
 
Today:

Trump 10/11
Biden 15/8
Geli's point still stands with those odds.

Bookies appear to have serious doubts as to whether Biden will make it to polling day.

I'm not convinced by Trump being odds-on. There is a ceiling to his support, and him standing is likely to get the never-trump vote out. I see no convincing reason why he would do better than last time.
 
More advanced voter suppression on and before voting day, along with dodgy computer voting systems, having learned from the last time?
 
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