Who will win the 2024 US election?

[Yuwipi Woman]

What's funny is he never stopped going on about snowflakes and how people get offended too easily.
Trump supporters are a weird bunch.

Hypocrisy is alive and well in the MAGA movement. You can count on anything they accuse someone else of being exactly what they're doing.

 

[newme]

Gaslight Obstruct Project

 

[Yossarian]

Wow, Trump said something I agree with, though I don't think Liz Cheney is crazy and I know how to spell her name



According to Rolling Stone::

A Democratic strategist says they warned key Harris surrogates and top-level officials at the Democratic National Committee that campaigning with Liz Cheney — and making the campaign’s closing argument about how many Republicans were supporting Harris — was highly unlikely to motivate any new swing voters, and risked dissuading already-despondent, infrequent Democratic voters who had supported Biden in 2020. The strategist says they also attempted to have big donors and battleground state party chairs convey the same argument to the Harris campaign.

Another Democratic operative close to Harrisworld says they sent memos and data to Harris campaign staffers underscoring how, among other things, Republican voters, believe it or not, vote Republican — and that the data over the past year screamed that Democrats instead needed to reassure and energize the liberal base and Dem-leaning working class in battleground states. “We were told, basically, to get lost, no thank you,” says the operative.

https://archive.ph/SfU9E#selection-1751.2-1918.0

 

[Wilf]

Wow, Trump said something I agree with, though I don't think Liz Cheney is crazy and I know how to spell her name

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According to Rolling Stone::

A Democratic strategist says they warned key Harris surrogates and top-level officials at the Democratic National Committee that campaigning with Liz Cheney — and making the campaign’s closing argument about how many Republicans were supporting Harris — was highly unlikely to motivate any new swing voters, and risked dissuading already-despondent, infrequent Democratic voters who had supported Biden in 2020. The strategist says they also attempted to have big donors and battleground state party chairs convey the same argument to the Harris campaign.

Another Democratic operative close to Harrisworld says they sent memos and data to Harris campaign staffers underscoring how, among other things, Republican voters, believe it or not, vote Republican — and that the data over the past year screamed that Democrats instead needed to reassure and energize the liberal base and Dem-leaning working class in battleground states. “We were told, basically, to get lost, no thank you,” says the operative.

https://archive.ph/SfU9E#selection-1751.2-1918.0

I agree with that, (possibly) give or take the definition of 'liberal base' in the Rolling Stone quote. However, there's something slightly depressing, after what is probably the biggest catastrophe the Dems have faced in recent decades, that the the sources for the story are all anonymous. Maybe they are concerned about their jobs/consultancies, maybe they are just falling back on their normal ways of dealing with the media. But If there was ever a time for open, honest and public debate, it's now.

 

[bcuster]

 

[Dillinger4]

Hypocrisy is alive and well in the MAGA movement. You can count on anything they accuse someone else of being exactly what they're doing.

Putin and Trump are both, in fact, fascists. And their use of the word, though meant to confuse, reminds us of one of fascism’s essential characteristics. A fascist is unconcerned with the connection between words and meanings. He does not serve the language; the language serves him. When a fascist calls a liberal a “fascist,” the term begins to work in a different way, as the servant of a particular person, rather than as a bearer of meaning.

That is quite a fascist achievement. Faced with the complexity of history, liberals struggle with the overwhelming volume of questions to be asked, answers to be offered. Like communism, fascism is an answer to all questions, but a different kind of answer. Communism assures us that we can, thanks to science, find an underlying direction in all events, toward a better future. This is (or was) seductive. Fascism reduces the imbroglio of sensation to what the Leader says.

What Does It Mean That Donald Trump Is a Fascist?

 

[bcuster]

14th Amendment won’t keep Trump from presidency

Former Republican President Donald Trump won back the White House on Nov. 5, after he fought his 2020 election loss with

www.politifact.com